I'd love to be on the literature desk. There'd be some GREAT leaflets available including my own personal "Witchtower"...and there'd be space on the desk for my fortune cards if anyone wants to know if theres an impending catastrophe.
Sirona
Posts by Sirona
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49What would a meeting be like if.....
by roybatty ineveryone on jw.com were jws and attended the same congregation.
now, i'm not saying that we'd follow brooklyn's rules (how boring).
instead what would it be like jw.com style.
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Reasons for Leaving JWs/Fatal Flaw
by patio34 ini ran across this in "river out of eden" by richard dawkins (pgs 131-132) yesterday and it accurately sums up why i left jws 9 months ago and, essentially, belief in a creator:.
re dna survivial: 'when the utility function-that which is being maximized--is dna survival, this is not a recipe for happiness.
so long as dna is passed on, it does not matter who or what gets hurt in the process.
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Sirona
I sort of mentioned this on the adams sin thread: I dont think that any god that may exist is anything like the way god is portrayed in the bible. God is not a "man". Mankind has attempted to personify that which he does not understand.
If there is universal power that we do not understand completely, (I think there is), then I believe that the way things are is the way things should be. Its not a *perfect* world without pain, but lets face it, its only mankind who think that pain should disappear forever. The rest of the universe seems to get along just fine.
You are right, the idea of a loving God is hard to believe when we look at "creation".
Sirona
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When God created Adm, did he knw that Adam wd sin?
by D wiltshire inwhen god created adam and eve did he foreknow that they would sin?.
this is taken from the reasoning book:.
when god created adam, did he know that adam would sin?.
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Sirona
Hi Intro,
Here's a thought.. Rather than viewing part of the duality as bad, what if duality itself is what is "bad" ? Anyways, I guess it's really another subject
I dont think that part of duality is "bad" as such. I accept the bad as necessary. I can't see how duality itself could be bad - Im not sure if you mean the fact it exists is bad or that people believe it exists is bad.
I just cant see there being a world where there is no negative. E.g. the negative is often what challenges us and pushes us to change things. Thats just one example.
Sirona
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Ignorant Elder Comments
by El Kabong ini don't know if this was discussed here before, but, what is the most ignorant comment you ever heard an elder say.
i once had an elder say to me that my brother, who was at the time fighting in vietnam will be destroyed and killed over in 'nam because he did not accept "jehovah"!!!!
i promptly told him to go "f" himself.
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Sirona
I just remembered a funny elder comment. Someone said they were going to Spain for their holidays. The elder said "oh no! you dont want to go to Spain, you should go to Europe, its much nicer"
LOL!! (how dumb is that!?)Oh yeah and then theres the other thing that they did to me and my fiance, this is NOT funny. Having sent out the invites to our wedding, a few weeks before they said that we might not be able to use the KH for it because of our standing (we were not reproved or anything at this time), even tho they'd previously said yes. I nearly had a nervous breakdown until 3 weeks before they finally said it would be OK. The most stressful time in my life...wow. I remember at one point shouting in a loud voice in the hall "so where are we going to get married? what have we done wrong? how completely STUPID!"
Maybe thats where the problem lay HA!
Sirona
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Ignorant Elder Comments
by El Kabong ini don't know if this was discussed here before, but, what is the most ignorant comment you ever heard an elder say.
i once had an elder say to me that my brother, who was at the time fighting in vietnam will be destroyed and killed over in 'nam because he did not accept "jehovah"!!!!
i promptly told him to go "f" himself.
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Sirona
Hi Es,
That happened to me. I had a miscarriage and no elders visited, but when I looked into it I noticed a questions from readers that stated that babies who died in the womb would not receive a resurrection. How disgusting that the GB could say such things when have NO CLUE what they're talking about!
Sirona
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How Long???
by Xena ini have been drifting for about 1 1/2 years now and was hoping that in a year or two i would have distanced myself enough from the org.
that i can actually start living my life exactly the way i want to...aka celebrating the holidays by putting lights on the house, not having to tell my daughter not to say anything about going trick or treating, getting birthday presents or going to cheerleader camp.
but i read some posts in the disfellowhiping thread started by somebody where people have been inactive for 3 years and are still disfellowhiped!
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Hi Xena
Although I've had to keep my mouth shut about my feelings, I still feel that I shouldnt let the dubs rule my life now Im out.
Last xmas, I celebrated (sort of, Im not Christian anyway), and I celebrate my birthday and of course the birthday of friends etc. I dont hide this from my Jw family, but I dont publish it either.
They'd have a problem proving anything anyway, so carry on as you are and be happy!
Love
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Lefty/YK & Any Other JW's - ???
by pettygrudger ini'm extremely confused by the answers in some of your posts.
you keep refering to "new light" and have also explained why the wtbts has made errors along the way, even though it has caused the "stumbling" of thousands.
your logic makes sense except for 1 questions that continues to go through my mind.. although all of god's messengers, apostles, disciples, etc.
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Sirona
I guess it got too tough for him [8>]
he he!
Sirona
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Anthony Mundine Comments
by drahcir yarrum ini just read the comments of australian boxer and muslim anthony mundine.
he says the attack on the wtc on sept. 11th wasn't an act of terrorism, but an act of religion, because of the actions of the united states in history.
apparently, while too cowardly to actually say he approves of the terrorism on the u.s., like so many muslims are cowardly in this regard, he seems to slip in his approval through the back door, as it were.
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Sirona
Did you post this just to make me bite?
Woah.
Sirona
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New Here...Am I Apostate???
by Sirona_Celtic inim 25 years old and from the uk.
i havent attended the hall for a couple of years.
i looked into the jws online because i knew in my heart that the guilt they make you feel and the mass destruction they preach just isnt right.
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Hi Teejay
No I didnt meet them, they didnt ask. I think it worked out OK because I told my family I wouldnt mention it again. I also told my mum I wasnt willing to meet them.
Its not been nice really, part of me wishes I hadnt mentioned it, but then another part of me hopes that people realise what the WTBTS are really like.
Sirona
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MAJOR UN/WTS NEWS- UN LETTER & 1992 Press R...
by hawkaw inas of 6:02 pm last night i received a facsimile from paul hoeffel at the un on the wts.. he gave me 3 of the 4 things i requested in two paragraphs.. i have sent a scanned version to steve bates and someone else.. i sent it to kent and randy.
and kent and randy have posted the official united nations letter on their web sites.. here is the letter - put your cursor on the image and then right click on your mouse and hit "save image" to your computer.. .
after you look at kent's web site and you people still think this it is a fake letter, phone paul hoeffel yourself at (212) 963-8070.. hawk
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Sirona
What makes me sick about that email by Gilles is that he is offering a great excuse for Dubs to say "oh it was all innocent after all".
My own family told me they were waiting for the society to comment on the issue. If they hear this explanation, they will buy it and feel smug, while still ignoring me when I point out the facts!
argh.
Sirona