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>>but the word of god is not just black symbols on a page.
it is the ideas and thoughts.
Good argument. I wonder how we'd interpret it if it were a picture of a shovel, then a picture of people using a shovel, then a picture of people not using a shovel, then a picture of a big powerful man killing all those who didnt use the shovel.
Sirona
i remember this article from when it came out; found it whilst looking for info on low frequency sound, it's very interesting, but was ignored by-and-large by the spook community as it's less rimantic than dead grandpa's.. .
http://users.iafrica.com/s/sa/salbu/apollo/huma.html.
monday 29 june 1998 .
Very interesting, Abaddon. There are many scientific explanations for so called ghost sightings, but as the article said at the end, there are some phenomena that are not explained, as yet.
I believe ghosts exist. Its often said that in order to "see" ghosts you must raise your own vibrational level (via meditation, sound mantras, etc.), so maybe these high vibration sound waves facilitate the sighting of a real entity?
Sirona
i attended college for the first time at age 46 after quietly walking away from the jw's.
i really wanted my children to go to college and thought my going would inspire them.
by the way, it worked.
Welcome Judith
I agree that there is a lot of religious sexism. Thats part of the reason I like to think of a Goddess and a God, rather than just a "male" god like the bible says.
Sirona
it's here, the feast of all saints.
the actual christian celebration behind halloweeen.
today's scripture readings for mass included revelations talking about both the 144,000 and the "great crowd" in catholic theology the "great crowd" is clearly in heaven, before the throne of god.
Books on pagan holidays? or other? The origins of our holidays now?
mmmm let me know specifically...and I will find out...
Sirona
well i guess wt is getting tired of waiting me out.
two elders showed up at my door on halloween.
they were not trick or treating, at least i think they were notat least they did not have candy bags.
Yoyomama,
Are your comments for real?
If so, you dont know about Silentlamb's life. He has asked that communication be in writing. They should respect that.
Have some empathy and realise you dont know anything about his situation.
Sirona
its easy too criticize a religion.any person can do that.trash talking isnt accepted that well amongst the majority of people.why not find something better too offer people.now that would be a better thing too do.this board will probably fizzle out after a while.
Hi abcde,
The biggest critisism you could give a religion is that its beliefs are "wrong" and that God doesnt approve of them.
The only beliefs we know to be "wrong" in any religion are those which *in the action they produce* cause harm. So we can critisise if we see these beliefs causing people harm.
That is why it is justified to critisise the Jehovahs Witness view of blood transfusions, because it has harmed people and taken away their precious life. The views on blood have changed too, so those who died years ago neednt have died (which is proof of the falsity of the belief - it doesnt stand the test of time). Similarly other teachings of the JWs which cause harm to people can be assessed.
We can do this with any religion and be justified. People can believe what they want to, but if they ACT on their belief to the harm of others then that is wrong. If they promote others to believe it and THEY harm others, that is wrong.
Constructive critisism is needed. You should be open to it, and be happy that people care enough to point out where your beliefs may harm you.
Jehovahs witnesses, however, mostly critisise other religions on what they believe, even if that doctrine does no harm to anyone. They say that the believers of so-called "false things" will die at the hand of God. Surely thats the worse form of critisism?
Sirona
it's here, the feast of all saints.
the actual christian celebration behind halloweeen.
today's scripture readings for mass included revelations talking about both the 144,000 and the "great crowd" in catholic theology the "great crowd" is clearly in heaven, before the throne of god.
Hi,
I hope you dont mind me giving my opinion...
I am pagan, and I dont mind who celebrates what holiday. The only thing that does really annoy me is when people say pagans are *evil* and everything pagan is *evil* and then they proceed to have their xmas (tree, lights, holly, gift giving, winter solstice, etc.) which wouldnt be the celebration it is without the pagan traditions. I know neither of you were saying that the paganism is evil. The point Im making is that I like the idea of everyone being fully aware of their celebrations background, and then they can make the decision themselves whether to celebrate. I cant believe how many people have no idea of holidays origins!
Even today I had a christian say halloween was to celebrate the birth of the devil, and I said if you mean the birth of the pagan "horned God" I think you will find that his birth is celebrated on the Winter solstice (dec 22 or thereabouts) which is why you have christmas. He he, boy was he shocked!
Anyway, I feel better now I've had my moan...
Thanks!
Sirona
hey there, i'm brand new obviously...i was raised as a witness but left 2 years ago, and my buddy *i think he goes by skiingcowboy on this board* sent me this link.. i was just wondering if there were any other gothies on the board.
:)
Hi Arachnia,
I love your name :-)
Sirona
steve's article has just been released.. i have posted the particulars and links on the big un thread and linked below.. ( http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=13530&page=22&site=3.
the tablet is a clergy newspaper that is read by a lot of high up people in both main churches in britian.. congratulations steve.
his article is front and centre.. .
Hi
Could anyone tell me which watchtower mag this quote is from:
"in times of spiritual warfare it is proper to misdirect the enemy by hiding the truth..."
that Stephen Bates quotes at the end of the article.
Thanks
Sirona
i have been away from the organization for about 3yrs now.. what did it for me was that verse in psalms/proverbs, where it says: do not put your trust in nobles or the son of earthling man.. the watchtower officials are like nobles.
they expect trust from you, with their multitude of rules for christian living.
something they say is down to your conscience; yet punish you for exercising your conscience.they infact want you to exercise their conscience.. yes, i have doubts about these people!.
Personally, I much prefer to have freedom of speech rather than a pseudo-peace as is offered when people cant really speak up.
It is a known fact that human beings form groups...we cant help ourselves. We also cant help arguing and getting annoyed with other people. This is life.
I too was surprised in leaving the JWs and noticing how people are with each other in the "world". You'd be amazed to know, probably, that despite arguing and fighting, many of the people here form meaningful relationships based on mutual respect.
Sirona
