Posts by notsurewheretogo

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Did you REALLY think about the 'Great Tribulation'?

by jw07 in

according to wt doctrine jehovah's witnesses will be singled out and persecuted during a time described in this way: "for then there will be great tribulation such as has not occurred since the worlds beginning until now, no, nor will occur again.

" according to the watchtower the devil will turn on god's people will all his might (if he really exists, why hasn't he done so already?

) in an attempt to wipe them out.. also, it's not promised that all jws will escape unscathed during this period of time.. even before i woke up fully to ttatt i really thought about what that meant.

notsurewheretogo

The JW's believe the scripture in Matthew 24:13 - "But the one who has endured to the end will be saved".

The end is the start of the Great Tribulation therefore they assume no righteous person will perish in between the GT and the Big A...and it is generally accepted that the time frame between the two events will be very small since Babylon The Great goes down "in one hour" (Rev 18:10).

So whilst there will be a peroid of great suffering their explanation makes no sense...if I KNOW I am saved right at the point of the start of the GT then no matter what happens I know I am safe...guess it might be different if I had a gun to my head but an old WT used to say Jehoover would stop the mechanical parts of weapons during the GT....

When I first got the "truth" I understood the Big A was salvation but some JW's might perish during the GT and the Big A but the organisation as a whole would go through but I was firmly corrected on this by an elder who stated that it was the start of the GT that signifies the start of "the end" and thus Matthew 24:13 comes into play then...

So again I repeat...a stupid idea...oh the GT will be nasty but see when it starts...if you have been faithful you are guarenteed salvation then so no matter what happens DURING the GT you will be alright.

Was quite funny, we recently had a talk about honesty and the speaker did not mince his words and said that Jehoover has no time for liars or people who cover up sins...I was still an elder at the time and a young wife who was married just a year came up to us at the end of the meeting and confessed to giving several boys oral sex in the congregation...she wanted to come clean so she could survive the GT...husband was raging naturally...

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How many did NOT get invited to the Memorial?

by Ding in

i didn't.. i must really be wicked....

notsurewheretogo

I never got invited either...my still-in wie went though and even she told me to stay at home!

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Which of the SEVEN stages of post JW behavior are you in right now?

by Terry in

1. they done me wrong.

2. i'm depressed.

3. i'm gonna act like an apostate (smoke, drink, drugs, sex, outrageous behavior).

notsurewheretogo

I'm at 6!!!!!!!!!

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The bible "never" says that Jesus was a "virgin" so he could have been married?

by booker-t in

i have always wondered what if jesus and mary magdeline were married?

how would it effect or change many christians/catholics/jws/etc mindset on marriage and virginity.

if jesus was indeed married it would prove to me that he was human and we do not have to beet ourselves up for having human feelings.

notsurewheretogo

Just this week:

http://www.examiner.com/article/jesus-wife-papyrus-jesus-said-my-wife-she-will-be-able-to-be-my-disciple

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Do The Writing Committee Believe?

by jw07 in

does anyone personally know jws serving on the writing committee?.

what is their outlook regarding the end; are they still truly convinced?.

are they expressing doubts or seem demotivated?.

notsurewheretogo

I can promise you everyone on the GB believes and all the high up folks in branch office believe...

They believe one thing...that they are God's Organisation...everything else doesn't matter...they don't do their research to prove it to themselves...

They are Captives to a Concept...that concept that they are God's Organisation.

Ray Franz spoke about in his books and Don Cameron wrote a book called Captives to a Concept...it explains perfectly that with beliving this one concept nothing else matters...its entrenched in their minds and they simply cannot see thier obvious wrongs/mistakes...or they ignore them because...in their minds...God is using them.

If you understand that point then you understand the all the stuff they write comes from the perspective that everyone on the GB 100% believes they are chosen by God...

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one eighth of jw's are regular pioneers?

by Truthexplorer in

that's what a brother said during his public talk.

i mentioned this to the missus afterwards and asked if i heard right?

seems quite a high number!.

notsurewheretogo

Counrties like Mexico, Japan, South Korea have high pioneers rate...South Korea in fact is like 50% of all publishers are pioneers...thus the big countries that have high pioneers helps the rest of countries who do not...

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Not All Anointed Ones Alive Today Are Part Of 'This generation'

by OwnAccord in

where do they come up with this stuff?.

this is a topic on 'the other site'.

i actually called our bethel ny branch and talked to a brother on the writing committee, at writing correspondence.

notsurewheretogo

This is utter nonsense and I'm not talking about the explanation...it is nonsense in that this is what the GB believe...I'm not sure where this info comes from but it is utter nonsense that anyone on the Writing Committee or an anointed JW would provide such an explanation...

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Memorial 2014: Wrong date?

by AnnOMaly in

this was meant to have nice inserted pictures and tidy hyperlinks but the forum's being glitchy today.

so unfortunately it's going to be a messy post where you're going to have to exercise your tapping fingers and click on the links to the pics to see what i'm referring to.

sorry about that.. in the article recently studied "do this in remembrance of me" (w13 12/15), there is a box on p. 23 giving the date of this year's memorial and how that date is arrived at.. http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2013926.

notsurewheretogo

They just explained why they choose the wrong date a few Study issues ago...my wife asked me what the study article meant and I must admit it was quite puzzling...

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New Light to be released on the 100th anniversary of 1914

by smiddy in

with further study and meditation , the holy spirit has guided the governing body to the evident reality that the year 1914 was a symbolic enthronement of jesus christ to his heavenly kingship .

jehovahs witnesses worlwide rejoice at this new understanding , empowering them to be even more determined to spread these pearls of truth to those moaning and groaning in this wicked system of things.

rom.8:22. some have wondered , even had doubts about the ever increasing numbers who now seem to be partaking of the wine and emblems at the lords evening meal ( memmorial ) celebration held annually .. we are pleased to announce that this too has been clarified by holy spirit , with study and meditation , and we can now announce that the 144000 is in fact a symbolic number and not to be taken as a literal number as previously thought .. we , the g.b.

notsurewheretogo

I didn't see the word "evidently" in there...thus it's fake!

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Who will run the "earthly organization" after GB is raptured?

by bruh2012 in

i guess the gb feels after they are raptured that their work is done since the new scrolls will be open by yhwh.. oh wait my bad - it will be by the local elders since they said a few wt studies ago that in so many words you better listen to the elders whether it makes sense or not.. if power and the use of the internet after armaggdon will pretty much be dead since those who operate it will be gone-.

notsurewheretogo

Supposedly all JW's in positions of administrative power for the WTBTS are now the Other Sheep and will continue to do so on the other side...

And of course the 144,000...from heaven...will guide them...

CUCKOO!!!!