Posts by notsurewheretogo

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CO says "WE ARE NOW AT THE THRESHOLD OF THE THE GREAT TRIBULATION!"

by nowwhat? in

40-50 years after saying "armegeddon is right around the corner" we are now making progress!!!.

gotta have a sense of humor to deal with this stuff..

notsurewheretogo

Those who heard the announcements from the society 30 years ago that the GT was close overlaps with those who WILL see the GT start...promise.

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Did God have a man to man talk with Adam?

by James Mixon in

i wonder did god instruct adam about the no, no's in procreation and sex.. look adam i know you may feel a little odd, looking at the other animals.

having fun.

so i giving you a mate, but don't do like the birds, horses and .

Adam: "God, what on earth is going with this thing every morning? It it supposed to grow like that and stand up? It really makes going to the toilet harder but hey I've nearly reach the height of that giraffe. And why do I get this urge to stick it somewhere? And just WHAT do you mean about the bird and the bees cos I ain't seeing them do diddly squat...PS could you make it bigger?"

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Quote where the WT said leave the research to us?

by notsurewheretogo in

has anyone got the quote from the societies publication where they advise to leave the research to them?.

i know in the september 2007 km they warned about independent study groups but i'm sure there was a quote from the 50's or 60's where they told the rank publisher to leave the research to the gb?.

notsurewheretogo

That's the one Splash...many thanks!

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Quote where the WT said leave the research to us?

by notsurewheretogo in

has anyone got the quote from the societies publication where they advise to leave the research to them?.

i know in the september 2007 km they warned about independent study groups but i'm sure there was a quote from the 50's or 60's where they told the rank publisher to leave the research to the gb?.

notsurewheretogo

Has anyone got the quote from the societies publication where they advise to leave the research to them?

I know in the September 2007 KM they warned about independent study groups but I'm sure there was a quote from the 50's or 60's where they told the rank publisher to leave the research to the GB?

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Interesting point about elders appointment by holy spirit (apostacy case)

by joe134cd in

i was just listening to a jc for apostasy on jwstruggle.

the issue was raised if elders are appointed by holy spirit, then why is there such an issue with sex abuse.

the answer was given (and i thought it was quite true) well jesus was the son of god and he appointed judas under holy spirit, just to have him turn on him.

notsurewheretogo

The problem is though that some JW's are secret child abusers and THEN they become appointed and that is when you question any operation of this magical non-entity like force called Holy Spirit.

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1975 failed prediction?

by Garrett in

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friends

heyo,.

your favorite garrett here.

so, i'm about to have an elder tell me allll about the failed 1975 doctrine.

notsurewheretogo

Is the GB spirit directed? They answer "Yes"

When the GB release new light does it have the backing of the Holy Spirit? They will answer "Yes"

So who got the old light wrong? Jehoover/Holy Spirit or men?

If they answer Jehoover then he is a god of falsehood so bye bye.

If they answer men then the bible warns about following men...how can we then trust them that they have it right now and how can we obediently follow them 100% IF they get it wrong and Jehoover THEN corrects them with new light?

You can't have your cake and eat it...it's either Jehoover teaches us falsehood or the men are not directed by Holy Spirit...either way equates to having nothing to do with the JW's.

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'great crowd' are in the temple (naos) but not in the new covenant???

by fukitol in

in one of the biggest about-faces in watchtower history, in a 2002 question from readers it was admitted that the great crowd is indeed in the temple itself (naos) in revelation 7. .

but notice the statement bolded below from that article comparing the great crowd to the proselytes in ancient israel.

the statement is made that the proselytes "submitted to the law covenant.

notsurewheretogo

You have highlighted the issue and highlighted a solution...interesting.

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These guys crash a Kingdom Hall on Memorial, video included

by Crazyguy in

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=7mars2mtaui.

to funny nice job....

notsurewheretogo

Pointless...just reaffirms in a dubs mind that they have "the truth" since those who leave or have issues with the WT are bitter, mentally diseased apostates.

Stunts like this just push people further in or sway those that have doubts back to the side of the WT...

This kind of active activism just does not work...

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The Watchtower are Right About Blood...

by cofty in

... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.

it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.

they take pride in obedience.

notsurewheretogo

I've just read the OP and all comments...Cofty's OP is spot on to try and reason with a still-in dub on their own terms...

This method may work but only as many have mentioned that the dub has a measure of doubt that they have "the truth".

What others have alluded to is the question whether this subject will actually speed up or start the "awake" process that we all have gone through.

And there is no right answer to that, some may...some may not...but the point is Cofty's OP cannot hurt because even if the dub defends the WT on this subject and refutes in his mind the argument it WILL be a building block for another doubt and when added up will help the person wake up.

This was my journey, not really one thing that woke me up but continual reading on sites like these that, when added up, I knew it was not "the truth".

Thus whilst Cofty's reasoning may not start the awake process with someone it will be a building block to it if they continue to research or query things...

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I'm confused about the Memorial? Great crowd?

by thedepressedsoul in

this was my first memorial thinking outside of the box.

last year i was starting to have questions but this is the first year i noticed a lot of bs.

can anyone clarify a few things for me?.

notsurewheretogo

Thing is...there was no dip...it was just dry bread...said this to my still-in wife as she looked in horror as I snacked on a bit of unleavened bread...surely Jebus would have used dip????

I guess my wife won't invite me again to the memorial!