notsurewheretogo

Joined

• started 34 topics
• posted 1,437 times   see topics posted on
• send a message

Posts by notsurewheretogo

• 
  7

  The temple and heaven and earth

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i read a comentary about how the jw's changed the greek word so they could claim that the great crowd are not standing before the throne in rev 7:9 but out side the inner temple and in the court yard so to speak on earth.

  my question is does the bible say somewhere that the inner temple means heaven and out side the inner sanctuary is the earth?.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  notsurewheretogo

  Indeed...the naos and heiron examples is one of the biggest lies the WT has made that is really apparent...and it too helped me to "wake up".
• 
  46

  Faders shunned now?

  by Sammy Jenkis in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi all so my family had their c.a.

  last weekend and my mother dropped this one on me, she'll now be treating me as a df'd person per info she received from a talk at the assembly.

  apparently a fader should be treated as "bad association" given the fact they up and left the holy "truth" to splash around in vomit.. .

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  notsurewheretogo

  They are not saying to shun faders as they said in a recent WT that they want to reach out to such ones like Jebus did with the wandering sheep...

  What they are saying to dubs is those who show by their life course and life style that they don't really believe that these are the last days and the Big A is knocking on your door then they will be viewed as bad association...
• 
  19

  What major WTBTS change(s) do you predict for 2014?

  by ABibleStudent in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what major wtbts change(s) do you predict for 2014 to celebrate the 100th year anniversary of the wtbts's 1914 prediction?.

  after posting to what's in it for them?

  (gb), i started to think what major change(s) could the wtbts make to thin the flock and cleanse the congregations of social jws who do not donate or go to meetings.. my premise is that the wtbts is a business, a dangerous cult, and that its printing operations are losing money.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  notsurewheretogo

  They will not change the 144,000 doctrine. They will not abandon 1914.

  They will not tithe (after saying for years you receive free so give free)

  Nothing important will be announced in this years AGM...just because they did last year doesn't mean they will this year.

  A new version of the bible might be on the cards but doesn't change anything...
• 
  88

  If the big change at the AGM meeting is dropping the literal 144,000...

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the best conjecture seems to be that the gb are going to drop the literal 144,000 teaching, especially in view of the december watchtower that pointedly does not mention the 144,000 number.

  if they are dropping the literal 144,000 number, but still claim that only a small number are anointed, and can partake, and that only a few are left on earth, then it is fair to ask what has really changed?

  they are simply clearing up the embarrassing situation that there were obviously more than 144,000 "anointed" believers from 36 ad until now, and that the number of partakers has been increasing in recent years.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  notsurewheretogo

  Nah, the 144,000 doctrine will not be dropped...it would wake up too many people...ain't gonna happen...the AGM wlil be the revised NWT won't it?
• 
  20

  Public Talk Outline No. 187 (2014 special talk)

  by pixel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  you read it here first:.

  why would a loving god permit wickedness?.

  note to the speaker:.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  notsurewheretogo

  Still doesn't make sense...God loved the world so much they He gave his only son but he didn't love the world that much to forgo a dick measuring competition with an angel that means pain, anguish, suffering and death for everyone on the planet...

  Tell the person in Syria who is getting raped and tortured that it is ok as sometime in the future God will sort it all out...they won't give a flying fcuk...
• 
  17

  CoC - Almost half way...

  by MissConfused in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  thanks to all who suggested me this book.

  almost half way through the reading.

  it sheds light to the darkest secrets of this cult.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  notsurewheretogo

  Captives to a Concept by Don Cameron is an excellent read too...
• 
  32

  Is (a possible) revised NWT prompted by lapsing copyright?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the united states i gather that copyright lasts for the lifetime of the author plus 70 years.

  if copyright only lasts for 70 years from publication of anonymous works, then copyright for the nwt of the christian greek scriptures would be due to run out in a few years.

  watchtower leaders probably don't like the idea of others being able to publish hard copies or circulate the nwt in ebook format.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  notsurewheretogo

  Doesn't matter does it? The end is sooooooooooo close....

  Snigger...
• 
  16

  Are Elders given back ground checks before appointment?

  by JWOP in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm researching a few things, and i'm wondering: are elders ever put through a back ground check either before or after their appointment as an elder?.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  notsurewheretogo

  None in the UK, I was appointed in 2010...resigned in 2012...appointed a few in my time...only checks are over 10 hours field circus and he is a good MS...
• 
  33

  Evolution, Biogeography VS. Experimental archaeology

  by Brother of the Hawk in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i thought of posting this on an ongoing thread regarding proof of noahs flood by poster *lost*, but i think a separate thread is needed.

  this is why.. first my disclaimer.

  this thread is a theory since so many people love the theory and so as not to hurt feelings and insult anyone, this is only a theory.. my personal observation is this, as long as you bash watchtower all is ok. as soon as you try to present any resemblance of christianity or any belief in the bible, such as the flood, you are personally bashed.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  notsurewheretogo

  He doesn't deserve a reply Cofty...he should be banned.
• 
  34

  "Whether These Appear Sound From a Strategic or Human Standpoint or Not." - What do YOU think?

  by jw07 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w20131115/seven-shepherds-eight-dukes/.

  paragraph 17.

  "at that time, the life-saving direction that we receive from jehovahs organization may not appear practical from a human standpoint.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  notsurewheretogo

  What are the facts?

  In the last year the society is losing money at a rate it does not like. Developed lands are NOT growing in publisher numbers and most baptisms are from children.

  The society has cut publishing down by 39% by decresing the frequency and amount of magazines...they have sold nearly a billion dollars worth of real estate and are relocating brances in the US and the UK.

  The rise of the internet information age is seeing more and more people wake up...they do not trust the society of the GB.

  Door to door preaching is not effective...the Mormons are stopping it...

  The end is not here...and of course will not come.

  IF the society continues the way they have been in the last ten years they will cease to exist...money will dry up and jdubs are getting older and tired...they are selling off land...selling branches....they are consolidating to survive.

  My guess is they will consolidate further down to congregation level which will affect every jdub and the fact that they are seems to fly in the face that the end is so close...thus whatever next they consolidate it will seem strange from a human standpoint..why consolidate when they actually need to speed up since the end is so close?

  I think they will stop preaching in some way, reduce meetings further and even share halls...