"good standing"; noun, usually as the object of the preposition "in" as with the context of the WTBTS organization.
Definitions:
1. Toadie (the really brainwashed)
2. Ass-kisser (the insecure)
3. Really good actor/actress (on their way out)
Skimmer
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GOOD STANDING-what does it really mean
by Tina ini asked this question in hillarys thread.since it may get lost and was a whole nother topic,thought id ask here.. i've been wondering about this label for some time now.. in my old cong.
'good standing' meant someone attending mtgs,fs etc.
i had never heard it applied to walkaways.
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In Defense of the NWT
by Scorpion inanother jw apologist site.
> http://users.eggconnect.net/noddy3/nwtmain.htm
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Skimmer
Check out the guestbook at the site:
-> http://apps3.vantagenet.com/zgbs/listing.asp?id=2112132133
Quoting a comment from the site editor:
"Any comments from ex-Jehovah's Witnesses will be removed. There are scriptural grounds for so doing so."
Somehow, I have missed the place where the bible prohibits comments in guestbooks.
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Overweight JWs -- on the increase?
by Seeker inyes, i know, the title is a pun.
it was deliberate.. i can recall in the 1970s seeing very few overweight jws.
in fact, i used to think (in my arrogant jw manner) that this was a sign of how jws were better at self-control than worldly people.
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Skimmer
Yes, I think we are seeing an increase in the girth of those representing "God's Only True Channel".
Maybe the WTBTS will use this in a new column in their annual statistics report. Instead of listing "Average Publishers", they could report "Publisher Tonnage" by country. The WTBTS could glowingly report, "We now have over five hundred thousand metric tons of publishers in the door-banging ministry, an increase of seventeen percent from last year."
Perhaps there will be a new contribution box in each Kingdom Hall: "Donations To Replace Our Crummy Plastic Chairs That Can Only Support 120 Kilograms".
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New WTBTS fund raising
by Skimmer insome wtbts fund raising we will be seeing soon on late night television:.
"for all of you bird fanciers out there in tv land, we have a special offer for you!
straight from our factory in brooklyn, usa, we are offering the finest in bird cage lining material.
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Skimmer
Some WTBTS fund raising we will be seeing soon on late night television:
"For all of you bird fanciers out there in TV land, we have a special offer for you! Straight from our factory in Brooklyn, USA, we are offering the finest in bird cage lining material. Our colorful but unused copies of the _Watchtower_ and Awake_ magazines have been made with special absorbent fiber paper and they are guaranteed to help you keep you pet canary, parrakeet, or finch happy in a clean cage. These liners are stapled for easy storage, unfolding, and refolding for disposal. And, if you call our toll free number in the next fifteen minutes, we give you absolutely free, yes that's FREE, a high quality metal bird cage with a bottom exactly sized for our liners. These cages have been hand crafted by our most dedicated employees (you wouldn't believe what we pay them) and are made from the finest scrap metal recycled from our excess printing and binding machinery."
"For you drinking gentlemen out there watching right now, we have a wonderful deal for you! Are you tired of having your wife nagging you about furniture stains left by glasses and beer cans? Are you embarrassed by having all those stain rings on your coffee table or the bar in your basement? Well, worry no longer, as if you act promptly, you can get an expertly crafted set of coasters for all of your drinking containers. These special coasters are large enough (13 cm) for your biggest drinking mug but they won't bust your budget. Each coaster has one side colored an attractive metallic silver and are made from sturdy plastic. A small hole in the center of each has been thoughtfully placed there for your convenience for stacking them on your finger. Don't delay; call now! These coasters once sold for a suggested price ranging from US$50 to US$100 each, but you can have a dozen for only US$1.99 plus shipping and handling. Special bonus: if you are one of the first one hundred callers, we will include a free guide for organizing miniature frisbee tournaments. And we know plenty about organization, yes sir!"
"Attention homemakers! Have you ever had the problem of unexpectedly running out of toilet paper at the most inconvenient time? Haven't you at least once been unpleasantly surprised by there being less paper left on a roll than you need? We have just the solution for you! For only a small price, you can avoid these nasty surprises, and all you have to do is order our exclusive NUMBERED toilet paper sheets in our colorfully bound packets. Each sheet in each packet is individually numbered, and by using the sheets starting with the highest numbered ones, you always tell exactly how many sheets are left over. Plus, each packet cover has been thoughtfully decorated with absolutely no mention of what the sheets are for, so you can discreetly carry a packet with you when you are travelling. Why, there is even printing on each sheet as a disguise so that only YOU will know about our little secret! And furthermore, we promise that the special quality paper used in the packets is most efficient in its application as it has an almost magical attraction for crap! Believe us, we're more experienced than you will believe. And that's the TRUTH!"
"Stay tuned! We have more offers for our faithful and discreet audience! Coming up: our new environmentally sensitive, recycled paper products for feminine hygiene and disposable diapers! Call 1-800-WE-SCREWED-U and have your credit card ready!"
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Show me the numbers!
by Skimmer init's been two weeks since the brooklyn boys got in all the statistics totals from the 2001 disservice year.
yet there has been nary a peep from any who know.
shouldn't there have been a few leaks by now?.
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Skimmer
They might try eliminating certain categories in the reports. For example, I note that the "Average Publishers" column does not appear in the report posted to the official site; we only get "Peak Publishers". They might drop the year-to-year comparisons, or only give them for the less significant statistics like "Total Hours". Maybe they will go to a moving average system to hide sudden drops.
Note that they have usually named the literature placement figures as representing "Bibles and Bible-based Literature". I'd like to see the number of bibles split into a separate column, but I'm not going to hold my breath for it.
I predict that the calculated statistic of hours per baptism will hit a new high. However, that in part will be due to a new high in faking hours in individuals' field service reports.
Some informative numbers that we're unlikely to see:
1) DF/DA counts by country
2) Elder/MS turnover rate (including DF/DA)
3) Net/Gross revenue by country; also, administrative costs
4) Government subsidies by country
5) Literature placements by language
6) Real estate expenditures by country
7) Gain/loss due to stock transactions
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Show me the numbers!
by Skimmer init's been two weeks since the brooklyn boys got in all the statistics totals from the 2001 disservice year.
yet there has been nary a peep from any who know.
shouldn't there have been a few leaks by now?.
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Skimmer
It's been two weeks since the Brooklyn Boys got in all the statistics totals from the 2001 DisService Year. Yet there has been nary a peep from any who know. Shouldn't there have been a few leaks by now?
They say that figures don't lie, but liars can figure. Could there been some special "figuring" going on inside of "God's Only True Channel"? But perhaps not; it would be easier for them to stop publishing the more damning totals than to try and fake anything.
It may be that the near certain continuance of baptism declines in first world countries (their primary revenue source) will provide extra motivation for the inevitable mainstreaming effort.
And maybe the WTBTS will stop reporting by country and instead give totals by continent or region to make things look better.
Who will be the helpful person to be the first to post reliable numbers to the board? You'll have twelve months of minor fame, and maybe a reputation for being an insider source.
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Interesting point about the WT-UN thing
by comment init's easy to document that there have been dozens of derogatory statements about the un in watchtower publications in the years since the society gained ngo status.. we already know that the brothers were not informed about this status.
and in the early 1990's, it would have been considerably harder for the brothers to find out.
why would any of them even think to visit or phone the un and ask, "is the watchtower society in any way associated with your organization?".
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I predict that there will be only a limited fallout form the UN/NGO registration. Why do I say this?
1) Only a little while before signing up with the UN, the WTBTS had gotten into bed with Jimmy Swaggart in a failed attempt to avoid sales tax. And nothing much has come from that.
2) My impression is that the average intellectual ability of the typical rank and file JW of today is less than that of ten years ago and much less than that of some thirty years ago when I was (briefly) involved. Compare the literature from those times and you will agree. So, the general lack of critical thinking and potential skepticism prevalent today will prevent all but a few from making the connection with NGO status and the continuing hypocrisy of the WTBTS.
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Watchtower & Awake! - Real Purpose
by Amazing inwatchtower & awake!
- real purpose - restated .
when i first read these pamphlets in the late 1960s, i was somewhat impressed with the statement found that they had no advertising so as to remain free and unfettered of any commercial control or influence.. the october 8th, 1968 awake!
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Skimmer
Isn't it true that advertisements DID appear in the Watchtower and Golden Age magazines in years gone by? Weren't there ads for Miracle Wheat back in the days of C. T. Russell? And didn't the Golden Age run advertisements for the lunatic medical treatments like the Electric Radio Biola?
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Kabul Being Attacked NOW
by Englishman inthats what sky news says at 5.
40 gmt.
http://www.sky.com/skynews/home.
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Skimmer
CNN reports that six or seven cities in Afghanistan have been hit in the initial cruise missile attack.
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Thanks to all the Brits!
by Skimmer incnn reports that the british working with the us in the initial attack.
royal navy submarines have launched a number of cruise missiles to assist with removing the taliban's war fighting capability.. congratulations and a big thank-you to all the sailors of the royal navy.
we in the us thank you and we will remember the help you have given us in the war against the terrorists.
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CNN reports that the British working with the US in the initial attack. Royal Navy submarines have launched a number of cruise missiles to assist with removing the Taliban's war fighting capability.
Congratulations and a big thank-you to all the sailors of the Royal Navy. We in the US thank you and we will remember the help you have given us in the war against the terrorists.