Betty, I think you make some good points. I lived in China for 7 years as a JW missionary, and I've known a few people from Thailand, and although prostitution is not legal in those countries, and is frowned upon, it is widely available and not necessarily more immoral than prostitution in Amsterdam or other places where sex work has been legalized. Having said that, a truly spiritual person, in any religion, would not have sex without love. So if the rumors about Lloyd are true, then you could conclude that he is not a spiritual person and maybe has emotional problems or maybe is even a sex addict. However, that doesn't negate everything he has said and done on his channel. My question is simply, if you wouldn't blindly follow the GB, why would you then blindly follow Lloyd?
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Would you still be angry with Lloyd Evans ?
by BettyHumpter inif instead of thailand, he had gone to a place where its legal and (supposedly) has some sort of oversight to prevent exploitation?
like nevada in the u.s or amsterdam in europe?
would the being unfaithful part still be a deal breaker as far as supporting his channel?
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Vice Network showing a documentary on CSA
by JeffT ini was channel surfing to find something to watch while working on a book.
i came in on the middle of an hour and half documentary on the vice network about jw's and child sex abuse.
it looks very well done with several experts and a number of xjw's, including barbara anderson.
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Vice Network showing a documentary on CSA
by JeffT ini was channel surfing to find something to watch while working on a book.
i came in on the middle of an hour and half documentary on the vice network about jw's and child sex abuse.
it looks very well done with several experts and a number of xjw's, including barbara anderson.
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Well, the below is news from Canada...
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Return door to door
by Hellothere inany news about how it's going with the return too door 2 door preaching?
are the jws excited about it?
are they facing any opposition to it by householders?
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I went to an Assembly Hall with my sons so they could see their cousin briefly (we left before the meeting started), and there were few people there and not much mingling, not like before. I asked my secular friends how they'd respond if called on and no one really cares, nor would they engage. -
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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My mom died.
by noni1974 init's been years since i posted here.
my jw mother died july 5th.
it was quite honestly not that emotional for me.
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Dear Noni, sorry for the loss of your mum. Perhaps you don't feel much now, but if you should start to have feelings later, please remember these condolences and caring thoughts.
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Upbringing
by punkofnice ini was brought up as a born-in(tm) here in the uk.
it wasn't until i was 50 that the scales fell from my eyes, i woke up, got da'd from the cult and my wife was advised to leave me by the elders whom i had served with on the boe.
one of which i know wanted to schtupf her.
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I've come to the realization that the probable reason that I ended up in the JW religion was that I come from a rather dysfunctional family. Not that I'd blame my parents exactly, because they came to Canada seeking a better life from a Europe where they suffered the effects of war and starvation. Parents can't give you what they never had themselves, now can they? So many of us came to what we hoped was a warm and loving religious community to have our unmet needs met and hoping for the security of a personal relationship with an almighty God.
I put off having children because I was trying to be a good JW but at the age of 49 I had to wake up to the fact that the religion was harming my sons and I had wasted the best years of my life.
As a single mum, I can't see myself paying $200 an hour for therapy so I've been reading a fair bit and am slowly coming to terms with the issues that led me to that dysfunctional religion in the first place. Am I the only one who sees the JW leadership as more and more narcissistic over the years, in terms of a GB that is more out of touch with the needs of ordinary people and families and more grandiose than ever?
For more information about narcissistic traits, I would recommend the following as quite helpful:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V87G95bGTTk
One thing the therapist says in this video that really resonated with me was that prolonged exposure to people with narcissistic traits is harmful to your mental health in the same way that exposure to second-hand smoke is harmful to your physical health.
Would anyone else here be interested in a new discussion thread on narcissism in JW leadership?
(BTW, so sorry, punkofnice, that creepy elder you reference sounds narcissistic to me.)
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I think maybe she was a Great Queen to the English and the Scots, with whom she felt kinship, and less so to the colonies and the indigenous. I am still in shock over what has been revealed as happening within residential schools, and have a hard time reconciling that with the person who held the crown for our government, within that "Commonwealth."
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Replacing God?
by punkofnice inwe seem to be if a more secular society here in the west, these days.
i'm speaking from the uk.. with the lack of belief in god/s, i'm wondering if all the seeming (note: i said seeming!
), deification of people like greta thunberg, george floyd and celebs amongst others, if people who have no real belief system, are filling the gap left by god with people?.
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If you look at history, enoughisenough, there have been many cataclysms on our little planet, such as the Permian extinction and the event that took down the dinosaurs, but none of these "end times" has been followed by a paradisaic New World Order. Would be nice though, without dictators or people like the GB ordering people about. Maybe it would be better to hope for some kind of reincarnation?