Why would Jesus want you to worship him?
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50Should JESUS be worshipped or prayed to?
by LittleToe ini want to consider this point, free from the trinity / arian debate.
there have been an abundance of threads that have deteriorated into these doctrine, and it clouds this issue because tempers get raised.. so, please, can we keep it simple.
should jesus receive our worship, right here, right now?.
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Could people be resurrected?
by sleepy ini want to look at the possiblity of whether people, at least in theory, could be resurrected.
when i was a witness i could see a major problem with the concept of a resurrection,as understood by the society.trouble is i found it hard to explain to people, and only others who had thought of it themselves seemed to understand.
basicly if a person dies, and you resurrect that person by copying all his parts exactly is that the same person coming back to life or, a new person with the same memories and feelings?well to me its only the same person if they have continuity of existance.
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Is a person in a coma that same person when they come out of it? Are you the same person when you wake up after a long restful sleep. Is a person with a hangover the same person that was drinking the night before. The human body is constantly aging and changing. What makes you think such continuity has anything to do with existence? Where is your proof?
Depends what YOU mean by person.I am the same person when I wake up in the sense that i continue to be conscious.Were not talking body changes here, but how the conscious mind continues to exist.
Restoring memory is all that is really required to make such immortal human beings whole once again
Restoring memory to what?If I was able to make a copy of you now, and give it all your memories in what way would that be you, as you would continue to exist along with this other person who has the same memories.Do you see the problem?What or who memory is restored too is important.
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Er I'm not eating that spider BURP!
Oh damn!
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Why did god create germs?
by sleepy inif there is a god who crested us , then why did he create germs , viruses ans other such things that harm and kill us?why also are there no instructions about these things in the bible, and don't give me that mosaic law crap, where does it mention for example boiling water or spreading germs through human contact, the most important things you can do agianst catching nasty dieseases?edited by - sleepy on 9 august 2002 9:4:21.
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"As far as I know when the Bible was written, no one knew about germs, so why the F### would you expect them to be described in there?"
If God really is the source of the bible, he obviously doen't care about humans enought to give them some simple instructions on staying healthy.Dieases that are easilly prevented have buggered up the lives of millions of people for thousands of years yet instead we learn of David throwing a rock at a big nasty giant called Goliath.
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Could people be resurrected?
by sleepy ini want to look at the possiblity of whether people, at least in theory, could be resurrected.
when i was a witness i could see a major problem with the concept of a resurrection,as understood by the society.trouble is i found it hard to explain to people, and only others who had thought of it themselves seemed to understand.
basicly if a person dies, and you resurrect that person by copying all his parts exactly is that the same person coming back to life or, a new person with the same memories and feelings?well to me its only the same person if they have continuity of existance.
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I want to look at the possiblity of whether people, at least in theory, could be resurrected.
When I was a witness I could see a major problem with the concept of a resurrection,as understood by the society.Trouble is I found it hard to explain to people, and only others who had thought of it themselves seemed to understand.
Basicly if a person dies, and you resurrect that person by copying all his parts exactly is that the same person coming back to life or, a new person with the same memories and feelings?Well to me its only the same person if they have continuity of existance.
If there was to be a resurrection what is it exactly you resurrect?Just a resemblense of the body and brain? If it is a copy of that person, is it really that person or a clone?If you were to be cloned know would that clone be you?I would say no.
In order for a resurrection to take place the same thing needs to happen to you as happens every time you wake up, you need to continue in existance.To have a person that has the same physical makeup is not the same, nor a person with the same personnality and memories, you need continued existance.Which raises alot of questions about what it means to exist.
What happens when we sleep and wake up why do we feel continued existance from the day before?.Is it just the fact that we remember our history that makes us continue as the same being?Well what or who does the remembering?We are more than just our memories.When we remmeber someything we may say "I remember that" clearly our memories are somthing we posses it is not what we are.You of course can loose your memories , how does a person feel then?I don't know.
If consciousness is just a function brain waves what actually causes it to be localised there?Couldn' t somone elses brian waves make me conscious?I am not conscious in anyone elses brain, each persons consciousness is linked only to them.
So how do you ressurect a person or make him continue in existance?To clone him I think will not work, as it is just a copy, the fact that we feel a continued existance makes me think that if we understood enought about our brains and consciouness we could resurrect people and for them to actually be the same people not just copies who look feel and remember the same things.
Edited by - sleepy on 10 August 2002 4:41:27
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sleepy
I just ate ballistic BURP!
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I ate it BURP!
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Why did god create germs?
by sleepy inif there is a god who crested us , then why did he create germs , viruses ans other such things that harm and kill us?why also are there no instructions about these things in the bible, and don't give me that mosaic law crap, where does it mention for example boiling water or spreading germs through human contact, the most important things you can do agianst catching nasty dieseases?edited by - sleepy on 9 august 2002 9:4:21.
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If there is a God who crested us , then why did he create germs , viruses ans other such things that harm and kill us?Why also are there no instructions about these things in the bible, and don't give me that mosaic law crap, where does it mention for example boiling water or spreading germs through human contact, the most important things you can do agianst catching nasty dieseases?
Edited by - sleepy on 9 August 2002 9:4:21
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sleepy
BURP!
sorry