i stopped at a local audio store today.
the place sell's home theatre.. i found a very attractive system.
the ownner of the store showed it to me.. they sell "high-end" brand componet's.
"clarify test conditions please! done while sleeping?
jw say wt is better than... they never wake up."
No done while listening , with out them being told anything about the equipment they are listening too.
We're talking abot quite obvious improvments here.
Extra octives of bass , higher sweeter more detailed treble.
Multiple vocal and instrumental lines when usualy one or two heared on lesser systems more realistic tone extra.
You dont need to be a scientist to hear this.
i stopped at a local audio store today.
the place sell's home theatre.. i found a very attractive system.
the ownner of the store showed it to me.. they sell "high-end" brand componet's.
One
"Who the hell can hear a 0.5.% (a lot according to audiophiles) harmonic distortion produced by a low cost amplifier at 8khz?"
I don't know , but there a hell of a lot more involved in an amplifiers sound than just that.
Most people who claim there are no differences between high quality audio equipment and cheap stuff have just never heard it.
I,ve yet to have someone hear my stereo who has not expressed suprise and how much better the music sounds than it does on a normal stereo.
They can not all be fooling themselves can they? They don't even know its expencive or what claim the manufactures make.
ok, you're out of the cult, that's great, it's the best thing you ever did.
but i have a question for all the ex-jw's......now that you're out, do you still believe in god?
do you practice a different religion?
I don't believe in the Bible so like many others I reject that style of God.
Evolution has some compelling evidence but not enought I fear to totally convince me that it is the total explanation.
There are too many questions , that it seams noone has answers to , the most important to me are those relating to consciousness and what it is .
Without understanding this I can not see how anyone can proclaim to know were we , that is our conscious existance , came from or how it is that we are here.
I am open minded at the mo.
lets be fank (o'er i,ve got to do something about my spelling .frank obviously)with ourselves here , especialy if you were brought up a witness.how much of what you consider to be you , your personnality your way of thinking, is a result of being a witness?.
if you were brought up as a witness all you earlly years were exclusivly based on watchtower thinking .your parent taught you as instructed.. ok we went to school and learnt a lot of new things and met many different people, this will have effected us.. but many left school to again be only amongst other witnesses.. when you reason have an emotion or feeling about something do you wonder if that is really the way you feel?.
or has it been programmed into me?.
Lets be fank (O'er I,ve got to do something about my spelling .Frank obviously)with ourselves here , especialy if you were brought up a witness.How much of what you consider to be you , your personnality your way of thinking, is a result of being a witness?
If you were brought up as a witness all you earlly years were exclusivly based on watchtower thinking .Your parent taught you as instructed.
Ok we went to school and learnt a lot of new things and met many different people, this will have effected us.
But many left school to again be only amongst other witnesses.
When you reason have an emotion or feeling about something do you wonder if that is really the way you feel?
Or has it been programmed into me?
Is that the way I would think if I had never been a witness?
it strikes me that as witnesses most can find many faults with the world and reasons why they want to be no part of it.. things are often exagerated or demonised in the witneses eyes.. does the same thing happen in reverse when you leave the org?.
do we blow things up out of proportion to how they really are?.
are we really that much happier as people than we were in the org?.
Matty
"You see I was born to witness parents and was indoctrinated into the faith. I thought it was the truth, because I knew nothing else. I remember thinking when I was a child "What are the chances of me being born in the right religion? Quite low! ...goodness, aren't I fortunate little boy!"
Thats exactly what I used to think.
Now I think "what are the chances of being born into the most crakpot religion around?Quite low....bugger!
it strikes me that as witnesses most can find many faults with the world and reasons why they want to be no part of it.. things are often exagerated or demonised in the witneses eyes.. does the same thing happen in reverse when you leave the org?.
do we blow things up out of proportion to how they really are?.
are we really that much happier as people than we were in the org?.
Yes I agree with most of your replies.
It shouldn't all focus on happiness.
Satisfaction and contentment along with a host of other things matter to humans.
If you are constanly fighting against your true self you can never be truly content and satisfied.
Also your mental level will play a part in whether you are happy or satisfied as a person.A child can be happy doing far different things than a mature adult would need.
As we as humans are mentally on many different levels different things will make us satisfied.
It may be that some witnesses are just not mentally developed enought to be happy outside of the org.While others start off in the org happy but then as they learn more and become more mature things start to irritate them , making them unhappy.
The more you believe the witnesses idealology is true the happier you will be , the more you see the cracks the worse it is.
it strikes me that as witnesses most can find many faults with the world and reasons why they want to be no part of it.. things are often exagerated or demonised in the witneses eyes.. does the same thing happen in reverse when you leave the org?.
do we blow things up out of proportion to how they really are?.
are we really that much happier as people than we were in the org?.
It strikes me that as witnesses most can find many faults with the world and reasons why they want to be no part of it.
Things are often exagerated or demonised in the witneses eyes.
Does the same thing happen in reverse when you leave the org?
Do we blow things up out of proportion to how they really are?
Are we really that much happier as people than we were in the org?
Is the witness way of life really that bad?
Or is it just a simple matter of one way of life being based on a false hope, that is in fact no worse a life than that of most people in the world?
Maybe some are happier with a hope no matter how false.
Do this overrule the benifits of knowing the truth about the truth?
If some one is really happy as a witness should we shatter their dreams?
I know how I feel , but I'll leave that for latter.
i stopped at a local audio store today.
the place sell's home theatre.. i found a very attractive system.
the ownner of the store showed it to me.. they sell "high-end" brand componet's.
Hi record collector.
More dumbing down.
It's happening everyware.
People it seams are after quantity over quality noadays.
Seams to be lots of shady dealers about.
On another note, learning about Hifi , how things work, how to get the best out of them , helped me on my way out of the org.
Learning to reason on these things taught me to be more analytical , after all I didn't want to waste my hard earned money.
It taught me not to believe the hype , but to trust my ears and myself.
should we fear death?.
how do you feel about dying?.
after leaving the witnesses i find i am ever more aware of my own mortality.before i could comfort myself with the idea that i could be ressurected.i think the realisation that death will completly end my life , and that there was nothing afterward , was one of the most difficult things to come to terms with.. generally i don't think about it , but when some happens and i do , the idea , quite frankly scares the hell out of me.. but does death really bring the end to us?.
Should we fear death?
How do you feel about dying?
After leaving the witnesses I find I am ever more aware of my own mortality.Before I could comfort myself with the idea that I could be ressurected.I think the realisation that death will completly end my life , and that there was nothing afterward , was one of the most difficult things to come to terms with.
Generally I don't think about it , but when some happens and I do , the idea , quite frankly scares the hell out of me.
But does death really bring the end to us?
Do you have a secret hope that there is something after life on earth?
Do you have reason or proof that there is?
Or do you think that future civillitations could actually bring us back to life?
what an absolute barefaced lie!!.
i just looked up a watchtower about "this generation".. i remember studying this, and falling for it!did you?.
w95 11/1 20 a time to keep awake.
1874
1914
1918
1925
1975
before end of literal generation of 1914
before 2000
Are just some of the limits put to the outbreak of armageddon.
Anyway how can you know if armageddon is further away than you thought , as it hasn't happened yet!
You would have to know when it is going to happen to know that.
What a bunch of crooks.
