Thanks Hawkaw for the updates,
If the R&F witnesses could only hear how their spiritual shepherds are catagorized by WBTS lawyers. So different than the message troweled-on at the local K.H.
just released from the canadian press.
hawk.
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/020924/6/p5hm.html.
Thanks Hawkaw for the updates,
If the R&F witnesses could only hear how their spiritual shepherds are catagorized by WBTS lawyers. So different than the message troweled-on at the local K.H.
ok, question for all the non dubs.
am i the only one who went totally wild (sexually) when i got df'd?
well, i actually went wild when i turned 21 and became inactive.
Sword,
I'm a little suspect about your initial "tone" re: Buffy's post. I didn't get the sense that she was boasting about her past. She certainly wasn't advocating that others follow her path. She was just being honest about her process. Doesn't the Bible speak about the "temporary enjoyment" of sin? Being honest about who we really are/were is O.K. Only then can we move to a healthier ( or if you prefer, more righteous) way of life, kinda like Buffy has.
i'm not sure how to put this news gently to the community here, but regarding my post yesterday regarding chantelle.. thankyou for all of your kind messages and warmth displayed on your parts.. chantelle was only 16 when disfellowshipped.
only 18 years old with her whole life in front of her.
she took her own life this morning at 0400hrs.. i am so sorry not to have been in a better position to get your letters to her in time.. take care all of you & kindest regards.
Hope the media gets this
i'm not sure how to put this news gently to the community here, but regarding my post yesterday regarding chantelle.. thankyou for all of your kind messages and warmth displayed on your parts.. chantelle was only 16 when disfellowshipped.
only 18 years old with her whole life in front of her.
she took her own life this morning at 0400hrs.. i am so sorry not to have been in a better position to get your letters to her in time.. take care all of you & kindest regards.
So sorry, so sad......I can hardly breathe.......all have lost.
often in society we let every business and organization have there day.
it seems that we do not want to stifle freedom with endless restrictions, so we let people go to a point that will either bring success or failure.
the thing is, those are not always the results.
I am so thankful to have found this site. It has allowed me to see the "bigger picture" unfolding. What I know now more than ever is that principles monitor ALL situations. What's happening with the WBTS is just the outworking of universal consequences. I am learning an important lesson. Regardless of where the WBTS ends up, I myself will also not escape the outworking of these universal consequences. It's not anger-fueled punishment, just consequences. I liked what Sentinel said. Whatever comes "down", it's gonna be an individual "accounting". I will never be relieved of personal responsibility, no matter how religions end up. And I thank those of you on this site that have help me see the importance of true integrity.
bruce baker, who led the press conference a week ago, in seattle, just called to tell me that the reporter who wrote the article for the seattle times, had called him to say there were 36 victims who replied to her after her article came out.
they all have told her the information is correct, but that they are fearful of "coming out" because they are still active jw's, and are in fear of being df'd.
she is planning an in-depth article in the times to correspond with the march on september 27.. stay tuned.
Thanks Mulan,
I was just thinking the other day about the way the WBTS tried to make our concerns over their shameful child-molestation policy seem like we were all alone. Little did we know just how many felt like we did and how many silent lambs would eventually roar. What must take place, is taking place.
on thursday september 5th, we learned that a 20 year old jehovahs witness (jw) named collins stephens had died in an intensive care unit in little rock, arkansas.
for us, this tragedy is heightened by the knowledge that something as simple as a transfusion of red cells might well have saved collins life by allowing physicians to repair his damaged heart and aorta.. we know that collin was in an accident and that he survived for over ten days in a drug induced coma.
we know that physicians worked feverishly to keep him alive and build up his blood count.
I am so sorry. It is so draining to hear of another cult sacrifice. It is all so bizarre and yet so predictable. I guess one ( or many, as in the case of AJWBR ) must do what one thinks is needed in helping others, but how do we know that this boy's family isn't celebrating and honoring his sacrifice. I don't want to sound callous or insensitive, but why all the anonymity? I know this is an often discussed issue, "stay in and try to reach people or get out". Why can't one continue their efforts of education about this insane policy and not care about WBTS recriminations? Maybe the WBTS doesn't want to conform more closely to "biblical policy". Maybe the true God has no interest in them as representatives of His Word. It is a persons right to be involved with a cult. Why does one feel it is necessary to go about some "covert" operative to publicize truth. I was a Witness for thirty years and when I had my final experience at the hands of "loving shepherds", I left, and left formally. I now share openly my truth about the truth. I am not silent, but at this time, I choose not to force the unwilling to be willing. I also know that children are another matter. But here again, information can be distributed, with proper authorities and agencies being notified without being a member of that religion. I'm just feeling really frustrated. Maybe the people in your group still feel the WBTS is " God's only oranization ". It would take the changing of MANY things for me to come back to that perspective.
friday, 09/06/02 | middle tennessee news & information
couple to protest jehovah's witnesses
bill steber / staff .
Sometimes I sit here in my little berg concerned that because I'm so insignificant, battered, and a bit tired that I wonder how the fight will be carried on . . .and then I see a statement by Barbara Anderson like, "We will not stand for it!" and I know that God's in his heaven and all's right with the world.
Thank you Barbara, Joe, The Bowens, all.
SloBoy and Spouse
sharon mcdaniel kennedy
january 27, 1942 - september 6, 2001
(we called her "the rose", affectionately, .
Mulan and Princess,
SloBoy's spouse here. Mulan I talked to you on the phone this summer. I am sorry for your loss. I have had some experiences that allow me to empathize. My thoughts are with you.
Just fresh from some shunning, (the receiving end). Had to check in for some reality. Came across this thread. I have gotten so much here. I am afraid I need more to be O.K. In that regard I ask the following:
Is it appropriate for me to ask someone to post Sharon's story or a link to it?
My thoughts are with you Mulan and Princess, what a lovely picture of your friend.
I feel I can relate, as I currently have lost 100's of friends, due to lack of mtg attendance on my part and a refusal to ignore child molestation. Perhaps even more so because my ex-brother-in-law died while disfellowshipped. My eyes were opened enuf to go support my sister and their children after his death, but not opened soon enuf to tell him how much I loved him, or thank him for all his kindnesses to me as a child even tho I was ready to do this and said I would even tho he was df'd, he lived three hrs from me and before I could make the next trip north, he died unexpectedley at the age of 48.
Always, always tell the people you love: You love them. Thank you. I'm sorry. I was wrong. Whatever needs to be said. No unfinished business. What a hard lesson. My one true regret.
Thanx for letting me ramble.
Love SloBoy's Spouse
well, i guess u can say that i've dodged the proverbial bullet.
now only if i could've dodged that damn rim yesterday!.
yesterday at work a tire and rim application that i had been workin on came apart under about 60 lbs of pressure and smacked me right in the face.
You are so right bigboi,
All the crap JW's are fed about wordly people, just more lies from a sick cult. My goal is to not let their arrogant, self-righteous, hypocritical manner keep me from responding in a Christian way when another one finds their way out and needs help. Thank God for this site. I'm glad your mishap wasn't as bad as it could have been. Must have been "clean livin". Hope someone has insurance.