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  Elders admit huge numbers leaving

  by mamashel in

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  my daughters boyfriend was at his moms the other night and the elders just happened to stop by and talk with him.. anyhow, after their discussion about him and my daughter and the baby and what they are going to do, (havent been to meetings in 7 months mind you), her boyfriend told the elders that he no longer wanted to attend meetings and my daughter told them the same.. the elders admitted to them that there is a huge number of people that felt the same way, and the halls are much emptier than they ever were.. hmmm, i wonder why?.

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  Path,

  You are right on about the "hunts". I Da'd a while ago, but not my wife. Of course I could be written off as "dead wood" anyway, always struggling to "get it right". Not so with the wife. One of their best pioneers. She is now "inactive" (sounds like an old nuke plant). Elders pop in every now and then to force the issue with her. Their concern is so transparent. She simply tells them that she is doing all she can and will leave it in God's hands. They slither away to set a trap at a more convenient time.
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  Bill Bowen's Comments on Ray Franz

  by silentlambs in

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  i wish them peace.

  at the end of the conversation i did not feel we were in agreement.

  for similar reasons i believe ray has not supported the issue of child abuse being a problem in the organization to media and by personal comments to persons who ask him privately about this.

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  Ven,

  Thanks for the pertinent information.
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  confused, scared..you name it

  by Cyre in

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  2. experiences

  hi there..im new to the board.

  i am a coptic orthodox christian right now, and i am good friends with a witness.

  unfortunately, i didnt know enough about my own religion before i started listening to my friend and i am starting to question my faith.

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  SloBoy

  Cyre,

  Something that might help.... let's see,.....it's a book I believe,....oh yeah "CRISIS OF CONSCIENCE" by Ray Franz.
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  Post by Ray Franz

  by Amazing in

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  2. friends

  ray franz requested that i post the following comments written by him:

  as has been stated already, the presentation made from the silent lambs source in connection with the child abuse issue completely misrepresents my position.

  when i spoke by phone recently with the author of that presentation, and pointed out that i had never expressed the views presented, his comment was that from his previous conversation with me (held some months earlier) he "got the impression that i was not on the same wave length" with him.

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  SloBoy

  So is it time now for the group hug. Isn't that what they do after one of those grueling, seemingly non-productice group counseling sessions.....makes me think of someone's line " what you do in this world will be of very little significance, but it's vitally important that you do it"
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  We see things the way we want to see them

  by kenpodragon in

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  2. friends

  the other night i was at my in-laws house for dinner.

  they are both jehovah's witnesses and try every now and then to plant some thoughts in our heads to get us concerned.

  this night was no exception, with small words and phrases popping up through the evening.

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  Ken,

  Good post.This thread comes around from time to time. There are many people in varied responsibilities, both religious and non-religious, who feel the system could fail at any time. I've come to appreciate that their words are just as credible as WBTS. But knowing when and if the system is going to end is not my job. I've been given the assignment of taking care of the day in front of me. For me, that was a big problem in being a Witness; I was asking the "God of all Creation" to give me milleniums of days in the future, but couldn't, on a regular basis, deal successfully with the one in front of me. Though the Witnesses would have obliged that fatal predicament, (as long as I kept showing up for meetings and the back-room discipline), I looked for help elsewhere. Things aren't perfect, but they are better. I now try to take care of my "job" and let God do his.
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  Give Bill a deserved break!

  by Derrick in

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  islandwoman, i hope you don't take this topic as a personal attack because none such was intended.

  in the topic why is bill bowen attacking us?

  the topic's author asks about bill bowen, "why is he attacking ray franz, hillary_step and from what i've heard on this board also reinhard lengtat?".

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  It has been suggested that I leave the brainstorming and the filibustering to the better qualified. This must be what they were talking about.
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  To Maximus

  by Big Tex in

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  farkel, i'm nobobdy, and i mean no disrespect to your friend.

  however, if you feel this is in anyway offensive, please have simon delete it immediately and please accept my profound apology.

  to maximus .

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  SloBoy

  The things Maximus posted were/are highlights of our days. In our infancy, his was the voice of hope. Again we say "thank-you" Maximus and are eagerly awaiting your return to good health.
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  Can they change? CofC, and ? about ISPs

  by Brummie in

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  i'm in the questioning mood so here goes:.

  1, can paedophiles change for the better?

  if they change should we forgive them?

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  This was one of my major concerns about the WBTS's claim to being so "divinely directed". They couldn't reconcile a most integral dynamic: being able to "forgive" someone, AND still apply restrictions in a loving way that was not shame-based.
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  Paducah Sun Article - J.R. Brown & Moreno

  by UnDisfellowshipped in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i just wanted to post some quotes from the paducah sun (kentucky) newspaper from the january 28th 2001 edition.. i would love to hear everyone's comments on this newspaper article!.

  mario moreno, associate general counsel at the church's new york headquarters, said when church policy is applied to child molesters, "as a parent, an attorney and an elder, i'm comfortable with our policy.".

  moreno said while he believes in the church's policy, he knows that some members have been hurt, and "my heart goes out to them.

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  Ah yes, a bit of the Dark Ages in the 21 rst century.... " the elders wil have the responsibility to watch the accused more closely''..in our case they watched him well, heck eveyone in the congregation watched him well cuz they had him doing all sorts of things at the congegation level just to "prove" how innocent he really was. Unfortunately, he struck again. If their policy has in anyway improved WE know what has precipitated the change; " prideful apostates".
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  Latest on the Hughes trial

  by Nathan Natas in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://www.canoe.ca/calgarynews/cs.cs-10-18-0004.html

  friday, october 18, 2002 .

  dying wish unfulfilled.

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  "What we promised Bethany"....that asshole probably had to look at the cue card to get her name right.