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  Jesus's brothers-apostates?

  by enoughisenough in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this came to me today.

  at first jesus's own brothers didn't believe in him....thought he was crazy...can you imagine him shunning them for apostasy?

  i would think disbelieving in jesus would be far worse than disbelieving the gb.

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  LongHairGal: Someone please let me know when they start answering people’s prayers!

  Well, they haven't knocked on my door for a few years now. Does that count?
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  What hymns will you never hear sung in Kingdom Halls of Jehovah's Witnesses?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for sure you will never hear the national anthem of heaven below.

  do you know others?.

  https://youtu.be/gkovqfcdegu.

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  Because the WTS tries to find ways to separate it from other Christian denominations, I bet they would find something objectionable with any hymn that was not from their own songbook. It's been a very long time, but I would guess that the JW hymns are focused on obedience to the GB and glorifying Jehovah, with the occasional morsel thrown to Jesus. Not quite the sort of thing that you would expect to hear outside of a Kingdom Hall.
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  Am I being unreasonable in this ?

  by smiddy3 in

  1. social
  2. family

  hi friend`s ,i have my son and dil living with us ,which has been ok,overall ,quite a few years now ,however ,a few months ago they decided they wanted a dog ok ?

  we had one a toy poodle for about 16-17 years and i just loved her as did my wife.. a few months ago my son wanted a dog and got a french bulldog as a pup ,which was ok by us .. however to cut a long story short, yesterday i was out in the back yard and the dog lunged at me and started attacking me in such a way as i can only describe as being frenetic in his attack ,in trying to ward off his attack and getting away from him i fell over and i believe if my son hadn`t finlly restrained him he would have mauled me .

  i am 83 years old and my wife has just turned 80. and i dont want that to happen to her .. i don`t know the dog is what 4-5-6 months old i`m not sure , and been living with us all this time ,however i`m going to tell them to get that dog out of my house by the week and and a half or i will one way or another .. i am not going to tolerate that in my household and if he don`t like it he can go also .. i`m not being unreasonable am i ?

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  Dogs are awesome. Dogs that might unexpectedly attack and harm you are not. I don't think there is any question that you should be rid of the dog.
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  Any news on Blood?

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i haven’t seen anything in the news lately and wt position remains the same, so no change.

  except, that when there is massive blood loss, my family mds have told me that without a bt there is practically zero chance of pulling through—short of an act of god.

  jw know this and have decided beforehand.

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  A couple of months ago, my mother (in her mid-80s) had internal bleeding. The doctors at the hospital could not locate the source of the bleeding, and my mother made it clear that she would not accept transfusions. I found out that this was happening when I got a call from her the next morning, where she was basically saying her good-byes because the doctors feared that she would be dead before the day was out.

  They managed to save her by giving her fluids and a medication that apparently can slow internal bleeding, which they use after certain surgeries (first I ever heard of this!). By the end of the day, the bleeding (which they never did locate the source of) stopped and she slowly began to recover her red blood cell count. She left the hospital a couple of days later.

  So, it seems as if the no-blood transfusion edict remains as it is. JWs can get almost any part of blood if it is isolated, but not blood itself. Although, to be honest, I think that if they decided that transfusions were okay, she would probably not want to get one. Too much time believing in the old stance to accept any changes.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  original reddit post (removed).

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  a special WhatsApp group

  Someone remind him not to share too much personal information on WhatsApp.
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  Our First Christmas Tree

  by Queequeg in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  early on, after we left jw land, my wife said to me, “i hope you don’t care, but i don’t ever see myself doing any christmas stuff.

  i don’t really understand why some ex jws decide to do that crap.” we agreed that parties were a little different because of the social aspects, but other wise i didn’t care.

  now… there’s a 16’ douglas fir with ornaments and lights in our living room.

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  I'm curious as well. The experience in the first post implies that the couple was worried about being socially isolated (self pity?) and that they took steps to alleviate those concerns. If seeking out people and building friendships that lead to more meaningful holiday celebrations is a trap, well... it's not a bad one to fall into, IMO.
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  Why do Jehovah's Witnesses attend so many meeting?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ronald curzan ( helper to the teaching committee ) gives a talk on the real reasons jehovah's witnesses should attend meetings.

  it looks like the zoom meetings have softened up many witnesses.

  many are probably turning off their cameras and zoning out.

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  I had the impression that they ended the weekly book study because they realized that the meeting schedule was onerous and might wear people out. The thing was, it was the most convenient of the meetings for most people- the location was usually closer to home than the Kingdom Hall, it was only an hour, and it was a small and cozy group. They let us host it at our apartment for many years, which made it even more convenient.

  But if the WTS was going to shorten the schedule, they couldn't cut either of the big meetings. So they axed the one that was probably the most popular, while still using people's apartments as a staging location for field service. They used my apartment for a few years even after I faded, because my mother is a diehard PIMI and I wasn't causing any trouble and I think they were hoping to get me to go back in.
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  Do the old boys on the GB actually report their field service hours?

  by eyeslice in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  this came to mind as my 71 year old wife got up at 6:30 to drive 1.1/4 hours to meet the field ministry group.

  we live a long way from the kingdom hall and the traffic is horrendous where we live!.

  somehow, i doubt the good old boys do much themselves.

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  I don't remember if I ever counted the time from the public talks I gave. They owe me two hours!
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  original reddit post (removed).

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  I'm curious what kind of setup Lloyd and Tibor were using. Would Croatian authorities stop a person who pulled out a phone to record a vlog in public? Or someone who wanted to film a street performer or even just film a street corner or intersection for any reason?

  Normally, they would want permits if the filming will obstruct traffic or affect local businesses or create a potential safety hazard. Unless things are more strict in Zagreb.
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  Who raised Jesus from the dead?

  by Blotty in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i have seen arguments surrounding jesus' resurrection being proof of "the trinity" - now while in some cases it's a good argument the evidence for it remains very weak.

  (bible quotes are from the nwt but other bibles are referenced, use whichever you please) this following version of it is a good example.. "the bible indicates that all [persons] of the trinity was involved in jesus’ resurrection.

  galatians[1:1] says that the father raised jesus from the dead.

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  The USAF was able to induce NDEs in pilots by subjecting them to high G-forces:

  https://magazine.tcu.edu/spring-2008/losing-consciousness-cockpit/

  They weren't trying to do that, they were studying the effects of such forces on pilots who were flying their (then) new F-15 and F-16 jets, which were able to create much higher forces than a person could normally withstand.

  They also asked the pilots to describe the symptoms they experienced while in the centrifuge or in flight. A clear pattern emerged. The first thing they experienced was tunnel vision, which results from a lack of blood flow to the eyes and is a precursor to a blackout. Then, while unconscious, many of the subjects experienced short, vivid dreams, or dreamlets. The dreams were often about past experiences or family and friends.
  
  

  In addition to dreamlets, a significant number of pilots reported having out-of-body experiences. The subjects described the sensation of floating above their planes and looking down at their bodies. Sometimes the dreamlets and out-of-body experiences were accompanied by feelings of euphoria and warmth. Some subjects said they saw a bright light.
  
  

  Surprised by his findings, Whinnery sought out scientific literature about reported out-of-body experiences. He found that out-of-body experiences were reported by cardiac arrest patients who were resuscitated. The pilots and heart attack victims had something in common: a momentary loss of blood to the brain.