TonusOH

Joined

• started 1 topics
• posted 3,034 times   see topics posted on
• send a message

Posts by TonusOH

• 
  9

  EMERGENCY ALERT!! UKRAINE LAUNCHES MORE NATO MISSILES INTO RUSSIA . . . WORLD WAR III IS HERE!!!

  by Littleleslie in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  emergency alert!!

  ukraine launches more nato missiles into russia .

  world war iii is here!!!

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  TonusOH

  It seems like we're getting spammed with these lately.
• 
  6

  Scam Marketing !

  by Phizzy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we are constantly being attacked by scam marketers who create a perceived need , not a real one, and hence create within us a want.

  if we fill our desire for that thing or things by buying in to it, we then end up with totally unnecessary expense.

  we have been scammed.. whether that be something to do with the latest fashions and trends, the latest 'phone, car or something similar.. the longest running, and most lucrative marketing scam in all human history has been religion.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  TonusOH

  I think it developed organically, for many different reasons. And, over time, was corrupted for the benefit of those who could use it to take advantage of the people around them. Which, sadly, makes it like so many other human endeavors: business, finance, government, and so on. Created to meet a need, developed as societies grew, and abused by grifters.

  The survival instinct keeps doing its thing, even when it is detrimental to the group and, therefore, the individual.
• 
  2952

  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  TonusOH

  Lots of people will reflexively give when someone begs, so he will always see an increase when he does so. But there are diminishing returns, especially if done too often in a short time frame, and moreso when there is not enough content to justify the continued support. After a while, it will become apparent that he's asking them to fund his living expenses with nothing to show for it.

  He was on his way to 900-1,000 Patreon subscribers when he made his disastrous livestream. He has managed to get the number back up over 500 once with a begging stunt, and had another one or two increases when he reached out to his remaining supporters. How many subs would he have now, if he had more self-control? 2,000? 5,000? Subscriber totals tend to increase at a faster rate as the number grows, after all.

  But, no... he threw it away. Not because he is sexually repressed and cannot control his penis. The problem is that he cannot control his ego.
• 
  90

  What is Your Favorite WT Lie?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i would like to start a thread on lies that the watchtower and their reps have told.

  surely we all have one or two that truly sticks out in our memories, no matter how much we would like to forget.

  my favorite wt lie: the reason they don't want to release the name of the "scholars" who worked on the new world translation is because they do not want to accept "glory and honor" from others.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  TonusOH

  greenhornet: My mom making hamburger patties. "It's not blood it's juice"

  She was right, kinda. Myoglobin is a protein found in the muscles of animals. It's not a component of blood. Mixed with oxygen, it's the source of the "red" in red meat and is what makes the 'juice' red.
• 
  18

  JW BORG does not have clergy-laity like Christendom! 😄

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  (because they told us so in a wt!.

  w71 6/1 p. 330 par.

  10 - "another reason why many feel there is no place for them in the service of god is due to the clergy-laity distinction that is fostered in the churches.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  TonusOH

  NotFormer: There's no precedent for MS, CO, DO, Pioneer, etc.

  It's more of a business-type structure than a religious one.
• 
  5

  Watchtower Reader - Perhaps aka Watchtower Library Bethel Edition?

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the spanish exjw forum) is closing soon.

  (but that's a whole different topic).someone found an app called watchtower reader, i have the 2006 version in spanish, and it seems like it's a special edition of the wt library app that has much more than the regular wt library.. for example, it has:awakes up to 1960 (this is not even found in the english wt library).

  wt up to 1960 (found up to 1950 in the wt library in english but only up to 1970 in spanish).organized to accomplish your ministry (2005).anyone here know or could get this in the english version and the latest they can find?

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  TonusOH

  Anyone know what the differences were between those editions? And why they felt they were necessary?
• 
  15

  Jehovah’s Witnesses’ UN Prophecy Fails Again: Trump’s Win Proves Them Wrong

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  https://youtu.be/-kdbs3lcsx8?si=icfla8tzg0p_wdcz.

  the governing body of jehovah’s witnesses (gb) has done it again—another bold prophecy, another epic fail.

  during their 2024 annual meeting, they confidently announced that the nations of the world would soon hand over their power to the united nations.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  TonusOH

  I think it's fair to say that Fred Franz was a mental case.
• 
  7

  Beard quote from WT 1975

  by joey jojo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  extreme hair styles can easily lead one into a trap of the devil also, and cause others to stumble.

  for example, a young man in the united states was making fine progress in his study of the bible, and he was moved to share with an experienced witness in preaching to others about the good things he was learning from the bible.

  from early youth he had let his beard grow, and since some in the business community wore beards, he felt that his wearing one in preaching to others would be acceptable generally.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  TonusOH

  Wait... growing a beard was considered an "extreme hair style???"
• 
  28

  Norway didn't fall for it

  by Jalisco in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  la norvegia non è caduta nella trappola della torre di guardia di agosto.. https://files.accessjw.org/s/sdzfgcgk4bi48jb.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  TonusOH

  This is good. In the other topic about this, I mentioned that the WTS clearly does not want to give up the practice of shunning. They tried to make it seem as if they are softening the stance, but they do not want to stop doing it. I had expressed the hope that Norway's response would be to encourage them for a first step but to reject the request because it was not enough.

  They have done this. Even better, they are using the WTS's own words to show that they were not serious about ending the practice, they were only trying to find a way to get the state subsidy while still being allowed to do it.

  What's more, this shows that the WTS is willing to decieve in order to get money-- the ruling by the Norwegian government would not outlaw JW worship; it would stop the subsidy and take away their ability to formally register marriages. That's it. Marriage ceremonies would still be allowed, meetings would be allowed, preaching would be allowed. So, either they are compromising in order to get money from "Satan's world" or they are lying in order to get money from "Satan's world."

  Which is it, WTS?
• 
  66

  Trump wins

  by gavindlt in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i am non political and have never voted but nonetheless i have been keenly watching to see how the trump presidential race unfolds.

  i believe that his involvement in propelling or influencing a leaning toward bible prophecy will unfold.

  how, i can’t say but something tells me that this anomaly and outlier being trump is highly signifiant!

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  TonusOH

  See, this is why I ignore the hysteria of how Trump is going to 'take over.' Republicans have a 53-47 advantage in the Senate, which isn't as big as it might seem when three senators are not Trump supporters. At 50-50, they still have the VP's vote to break ties, but it is much easier for Democrats when they really only need to find one or two dissenting votes, instead of five or six.

  Similarly, the House margin is thin. Trump can still use executive orders. I think that US Presidents have been absuing executive orders for decades now, and I doubt it is going to stop. Each sides wrings its hands when the other side is using them, but they don't want to restrict their use because one day they will win back the White House and they want to be able to abuse them as well. So, if Trump does turn the USA into a fascist dictatorship, you can blame the voters if you want, but I think fault would lie in the people who could have taken away this dangerous tool but didn't, because they didn't want to.