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  PIMA is best so it’s not a shock to the system if the tower collapsed

  by JohnR1975 in

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  i know most people here are totally out and that’s fine.. many these days are staying physically in for the social life and that is also fine.. i feel being fully mentally in is dangerous as it could be such a shock mentally if or should i say when the tower collapsed.. im sitting in the fence like so many others here.

  mentally agnostic if god exists or not and if the bible is his word.. when i talk to people who are physically and mentally still in i can tell that they so need it to be true.

  i’m worried for them when they wake up to the fact that they have been lied to 1914 wasn’t true 1975 wasn’t true 1999 wasn’t true and now here we are 2025 it’s all not true.

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  But it is a good point: how can they claim divine protection and guidance, while admitting that one of their own governing body turned out to be an apostate?
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  Babylon The Great

  by EisMe in

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  babylon the great: a prophetic warning.

  babylon the great is not just a city—it is the system that governs the world economy.

  this was god's first judgment against economic babylon, but it would not be his last.. the three parts of babylon's economy.

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  EisMe: Global warming, which is leading to the destruction of this planet has happened before?

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_extinction_events

  At least three of the major extinction events in the history of the planet involved changes in the climate. Global warming, global cooling, etc.

  I must point out that, after I explained how one can interpret random Bible verses to make any point, you... grab a bunch of random Bible verses to try to claim that the changing climate indicates the end of the world (or whatever silliness you're on about).

  In the other topic, you indicate that 2025 (this year) is when it all comes to pass. Do you still hold to this prediction, or are you going to find some way to weasel out of it?
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  The End of the Times of the Gentiles and the Restoration of the Kingdom

  by EisMe in

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  the end of the times of the gentiles and the restoration of the kingdom.

  the final stage of god’s plan on earth.

  the fulfillment of prophecy: the end of the gentile age.

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  Seventh Period (2019-2025)

  So... the end is upon us?
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  The Governing Body is Restructuring the Org.and encouranging young ones to REACH OUT!

  by liam in

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  the governing body just doesn't let up on encouraging the young children to reach out to do free labor for the organization.

  so another generation of young people with ruined lives.

  another generation of young people that will get old and wake up in their 50s to realize they were in a religious doomsday cult.. and they are getting rid of some old workers that ran the branches of the organization, and giving them different assignments or maybe they are just sending them home, who knows.

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  I wonder how long those old-timers served. When did they first arrive at Bethel? Did they ever think they would get this old before Armageddon? Did the org make any attempt to make sure they had their financial future taken care of, or would that have undermined the message that the end is very, very close?

  How many of them are still loyal, after giving so much for so long, only to find themselves still in the "old system"?
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  You Could Be Stuck in a University When Your Parent Dies. Convention Day 2 Video

  by liam in

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  the governing body is going all out at this years convention.

  they are still discouraging university education.

  i guess the end must be real close .

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  They could use a few more lawyers these days.
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  The Most Tasteless Awake Cover ?? - Feb 8th 2003

  by BluesBrother in

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  this magazine was disturbing to me at the time, but i lost track of it and only recently found it .

  this is exactly as it was printed, no photo shop, i am not that clever.. it is credited to a newsagency, jan banning , panos pictures - so i do believe that she was a real child prostitute .

  there is something that gets to me even now about this picture.

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  NotFormer: everything published is valid until it's officially countermanded.

  And also, they are directly led by Jehovah via the holy spirit. So, when they spend a good part of the 1920s and 1930s posting twaddle like this: https://corior.blogspot.com/2006/02/0159.html ...it is what Jehovah intended for them to say, regardless of the potential consequences or outcomes.
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  Dinosaur Soft Tissue

  by Sea Breeze in

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  back when the dinosaur soft tissue story was broken in 2005, i predicted that that many more soft tissues would be found and that it wouldn't matter if it was supposedly "65 million" years old or "165 million" years old.

  the prediction has proven true and dinosaur soft tissue is routinely now found regardless of supposed age.

  this is easy to predict using a literal reading of genesis and accepting it as history.... .

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  Interestingly, the people researching this do not express any doubt that the fossils are tens of millions of years old. They don't subscribe to the literal reading of Genesis.
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  What was really going on with Abel? Does anyone find the story of Cain and Abel screwed up.

  by liam in

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  ever wonder about the story of cain and abel?

  why did jehovah like abel's sacrifice more than cain's?

  maybe there's a subtle reason why jehovah likes animal sacrifices.

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  Cain was rejected and reacted by killing someone. Typical vegan...
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  How could anyone defend someone who betrayed his wife and kids with drugs and prostitution?

  To their credit, a large number of his supporters left after his confession livestream/video. At least one generous spender made it clear that Evans had abandoned the moral high-ground and this made it impossible to support him anymore. The only ones left at this time try to minimize or deny what Evans has done, even though these are actions and behaviors that he is admitting to, either in video or writing. So they pretend not to know.

  I think that many of them are so grateful for finding a way out of the JW organization that they cannot see the issue rationally. I bet that they would see it clearly if it was anyone other than Evans. I bet they would see it really clearly if it was one of his critics. At some point, they probably will admit that Evans did not deserve their support after they learned about what he did. But confirmation bias is a very powerful thing.
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  "Donald Trump: The Eighth King of Prophecy"

  by EisMe in

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  9.“this calls for a mind with wisdom.

  the seven heads are seven hills on which the woman sits.

  10.they are also seven kings.

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  TonusOH

  What made you think this mile-long pile of crap was worth posting TWICE?!?!?!?!