i was terrible at prayers.
it was hard for me to talk to someone i can't see or hear.
everyone else put their heads down at the dinner table so i needed to do the same or i'll look suspicious.
In a restaurant we usually said a silent prayer..Some that usually went overborad or were classed as a "Fanatic" usually insisted they pray out loud to "give a witness". Used to make me crings.
I knew those other people weren't impressed..just thought what a bunch of nuts!
Snoozy
i just learned about this yesterday..i was amazed!.
i have a grown daughter that is a expert at this... .
dry begging:to ask for in an indirect and roundabout way.
Know anyone that does this? I just learned about this yesterday..I was amazed!
I have a grown daughter that is a expert at this.. $120. worth this month alone... Now that I know people actually do this I am ready next time..no more pushover here!!!!
dry begging:To ask for in an indirect and roundabout way. Dropping vague hints that are not clear or straightforward in making a request.
(Example)My son was dry begging to use the car Friday night instead of just asking;
(Example)What are you eating? It sure looks good. Stop dry begging!
Snoozy, who can't till wait her daughter tries it again..I'm so ready!
once again we received the may 15th " witness only " wt from our lurking jw friend.
even though i've been out for over 7 years and haven't attended in that long - i never cease to be amazed at the arrogance of this patriarchal man pleasing wt society in it's dismissive attitude towards women .
it's horrible.
In watching 20/20 tonight about the IFB church (Baptist) and their views on women the JW's almost look like saints. One minister got up in front of the audience and loudly criticized all women for not keeping themselves in shape for "Their Man" and they should strive to be what they were when they "caught" their man.
In answering the question when will women be allowed to speak in the congregation? When hell freezes over..
I was in shock as was my daughter and her husband watching it at her house.
Her comment was "I can't believe how much alike they and the JW's are!"
Snoozy
referred to on this thread:.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/208507/1/a-religious-sub-culture-that-many-americans-have-never-heard-of-yet-which-has-thousands-of-churches-across-the-country-churches-that-critics-claim-can-foster-physical-and-sexual-abuse-on-abc-news-20-20.
i wonder how many jws are watching this show and see the many similarities to the watchtower..
I do! There is another thread going about this topic also see:
Snoozy.. (Sorry I can't post direct links from my computer feel free to repost clickable link)
sounds like it's worth watching.. .
elizabeth vargas' yearlong investigation into the independent fundamental baptist church airs friday, april 8. .
try to imagine the pain and humiliation of a teenage girl, just 15 years old, who says she was forced to stand in front of a new hampshire church congregation and confess her "sin" of being pregnant.
I agree, it's like hearing them talk about the JW's. Especially their views about headship and Flipper posting about the latest Watchtower magazine stating the same this month..Could be the same writers for theIFB and the Jehovah's Witnesses...
Same rules and views..it's disgusting...I wish they would lump it in with the JW's on the program..
Snoozy..Thanks for the thumbs up. (My daughter called me and her and her husband are watching it. She is amazed at the likeness also)
sounds like it's worth watching.. .
elizabeth vargas' yearlong investigation into the independent fundamental baptist church airs friday, april 8. .
try to imagine the pain and humiliation of a teenage girl, just 15 years old, who says she was forced to stand in front of a new hampshire church congregation and confess her "sin" of being pregnant.
a little background.
my youngest son 30 yrs.
was 12 yrs.
I had a similar circumstance recently . A old JW friend I knew years ago was the same way with her kids. Mostly screamed at them. I even saved one of them from being choked by her when they were an infant.(she is in her 40's now) She also gave her husband custody of two of them and was pregnant with another one when they divorced. She tried to tell her ex it was his baby and he believed her for years..when she got older they realized it was not his!.. They are all grown up now and she is in California. She recently layed a sob story of how she needs help to one of her daughters here to come and help her. The girl finally quit her job and packed up to go help her Mom. The girl is not a JW. Well since she has been in Calif. helping her mom she has been bombarded to join the 'Truth". Everyday the girl gets on the facebbok and says"I don't know how much more I can take". I laugh because I know what she is talking about. The JW mom got reinstated and has gone over the edge and is a JW fanatic now. She has 25 cats in one of her bedrooms, a old lady she has taken in to supplelment her income in another and she has the other bedroom. She makes this daughter sleep on the couch..
If this Son of yours gets around his Mom enough, that alone will convince him that he wants no part of the religion. They are some of the most negative people I have ever met. They suck you in so slowly you don't even realize it unless you have been out in the world. Normal people just aren't that negative all the time.
My good news is that the one daughter that was so illtreated by her JW momm and that I rescued from her mom when she tried to choke her has contacted me and we are very close friends now. She considers me her real mom as her Mom used to drop her off for me to watch a lot and I have taken her to be one of my daughters..She is disfellowshipped and I have done all I can to give her back some pride in herself. The Mom accused her of having demons in her. Her and I had a long talk about the religion..she is slowly accepting the fact that all they say is not the "Truth". The hard part is she was raised in it pretty much and believes a lot of it as truth. Born ins have a tough time letting go sometimes. Her Mom won't even speak to her now. I feel so bad for her..soming to this site has really shown me how cruel some JW mothers can be. Your childs mother sounds like one of them..
Big hugs for your kids..they are lucky to have you!!!
Snoozy
i made this in the midst of my break from the organization, i kinda like it hehe:.
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http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/6595257/the-parting-of-ways.
That was cool.."farewell old friend"..
Good job
Snoozy
south africa: first visit to the indian ocean.
i met loubelle!
it was a wonderful choice to go the lovely loubelle, and learn about her beautiful land.. .
Africa is amazing..my grandson was there not to long ago and posted many pictures on his facebook. Lou Belle is a wonderful person and I bet it was a great priveledge to meet her. as it was for her to meet you.. She is my facebook friend and it is a delight to read her posts..
Snoozy
it's not the fault of the people who believe it but those that teach it.
false religion teaches people nonsense and since their flocks know nothing about the bible, they don't know how to reason such teachings from the scriptures.
anything that doesn't make sense, like this subject or the trinity, they're told that's where faith comes in.
You do know you can get pregnant without breaking the hymen right?....
I wonder how they make the assumption that Mary was a virgin still in thoses days?
Silly people..
Snoozy
