Posts by Snoozy

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Cheating On-line

by EmptyInside in

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friends

well,this is from someone who for years only had conventions and assemblies to look for potential dates and without much success.lol.

and it really is hard to meet people and then,i feel right now,is not the best time anyway.

but,i have explored on-line options.

This is a sore spot with me. I or no one I know has had experience with this but after being on the boards for over 10 years I have seen it come up..so called harmless flirting. It churns my stomach because I feel they are unhappy in their own relationship and they are going about it the wrong way to correct it..

Some are just plain selfish looking out for their own little thrill..without any regard for their loved ones.

To me there is no such thing as harmless flirting..I feel it may someday lead to something greater..and cause them more pain and others more pain then they can even imagine..not worth it.

If you are unhappy in a relationship get out..otherwise be faithful to your loved one and talk with them and try to find a way to be happy. It can be done!

There is no such thing as "harmless flirting"..it just makes you look low class on the boards..

Snoozy..JMO.

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Ok, I smashed a spider yesterday, but released a ladybug out the window. Hypocrisy?

by miseryloveselders in

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friends

the weather over here is nice, and i'm ready to cash my chips in and say that spring is officially here.

yesterday, i saw a spider, and i don't mind spiders, but he was a little healthier than typical, and i stepped on him, wiped the mess with a paper towel, and threw it in the rubbish.

this morning i got up and saw a ladybug on the wall.

Snoozy

It's from childrens stories we were read when younger..

I only remember parts but, The Lady bug was:

"Lady bug Lady bug fly away home, your house is on fire and your children are alone.." (Of course we are going to feel sorry for the Lady Bug)

And regarding the spider, well look how they were .mean to children:

"Little Miss Muffet, sat on a tuffet, eating her curds and whey, when along came a spider and sat down beside her and frightened miss Muffet away!"

Spiders were scary..

Snoozy

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Can someone PLEASE scan the Watchtower dated 7-15-11 and PM me. Im going public. People need to be warned about this CULT. Im done sitting on the sidelines watching

by foolsparadise in

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friends

please send me the magazine in its entirety so it looks authentic and credible.

i will be showing this article to all media types and news authorities.

i have lost my family to this destructive cult in the past year.

Snoozy

Oh but they have a good reason for their shunning policy, it is for the good of the person and also protects the flock from evildoers..at least that is what they say. And believe. At least they have tried to convince themselves it is the truth.

Snoozy..who has no patience for their warped reasonings..

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Prayers for my daughter, Ali, not a good update

by coffee_black in

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friends

my last update on my daughter was so good...but it didn't turn out that way.

she was cleared to go back to work, but with limitations... she couldn't lift more than 10 pounds.

her employer wanted her back but wouldn't agree to the lifting restriction.

Snoozy

AGuest, thank you so much for your advice and knowlege on Diabetes! I also have a friend that is having problems as hers dips really low. She was also on Lisinopril and is now having a heart problems . From her symptoms I too suspected the lisinopril as I had taken it and watched as my kidney function tests started going downhill..I couldn't understand why I was so tired and weak..tests were run and I was taken off the lisinopril My numbers returned to normal!..That stuff could have killed me! Thankfully I have a Dr that works with me and doesn't just sit around and quote numbers. She helps me find out why they may have changed.

Coffe I am so sorry to hear about your daughter. I pray for strength for all of you to get through this..hoppefully some of the advice you are getting may hit the nail on the head and help..

Big Hugs for your family

Snoozy(Kathy)

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re-enforcing the shunning of immediate family - WT 7-15-11

by undercover in

july 15th wt study edition (regular dumb edition, not the dumber one).

god's rest - have you entered into it?.

subheading, when someone we love leaves jehovah.

Snoozy

They mispelled opportunity (oppurtunity)..

And that is what a cult does ..separating a child from their family/parent..

Snoozy

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Being Under Cult Mind Control is a Psychological Disorder - Steve Hassan

by flipper in

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friends

thought perhaps some newer members who haven't heard some of hassan's thoughts on mind control might relate to this from their own experiences in jehovah's witnesses .

even though mind control is initiated by the cult involved in controlling it's members - hassan points out - it actually becomes a psychological disorder which can entrap the victim himself or herself - all the while - as they are being controlled by the leaders of cults.. on page 55 of hassan's book " releasing the bonds - empowering people to think for themselves " it states what happens in a destructive cult , " in a destructive cult, the locus of control shifts to the group or it's leader .

the new recruit abdicates his ability to make decisions.

Snoozy

Moon 84 wrote:

WOBBLE- I agree with you as well that we have to use to word "cult" sparingly. If I told my mom that I thought she brought us up in a cult I would most likely be removed from the family unit

You are if you are disfellowshipped..or your Mom was, you would be disfellowshipped..removed from the family unit! = CULT..

Course you could also be shunned / kicked out of family unit for speaking your opinion=CULT

Mind control of CULTS:

Main article:

Mind control

Studies performed by those who believe that some religious groups do practice mind control have identified a number of key steps in coercive persuasion: [31] [32]

People are put in physical or emotionally distressing situations;

Their problems are reduced to one simple explanation, which is repeatedly emphasized;

They receive unconditional love, acceptance, and attention from a charismatic leader or group;

They get a new identity based on the group;

They are subject to entrapment (isolation from friends, relatives and the mainstream culture) and their access to information is severely controlled. [33]

Snoozy

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Being Under Cult Mind Control is a Psychological Disorder - Steve Hassan

by flipper in

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friends

thought perhaps some newer members who haven't heard some of hassan's thoughts on mind control might relate to this from their own experiences in jehovah's witnesses .

even though mind control is initiated by the cult involved in controlling it's members - hassan points out - it actually becomes a psychological disorder which can entrap the victim himself or herself - all the while - as they are being controlled by the leaders of cults.. on page 55 of hassan's book " releasing the bonds - empowering people to think for themselves " it states what happens in a destructive cult , " in a destructive cult, the locus of control shifts to the group or it's leader .

the new recruit abdicates his ability to make decisions.

Snoozy

Flipper said:

I suggest that humans have ALWAYS controlled one another through mind control and manipulation through religion, governments, financial empires, etc. And that there has never bEEN a God to step in and rectify things. There is an awakening happening in our society now trumpeting freedom of speech and rights. I will always be one to help promote that freedom of thought and speech. Peace out, Mr. Flipper

I can't argue with that!

Snoozy

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How can the WTS be short of money ?

by the max in

so the society have a hedge fund, some(50%) shares in a usa company who specsialise in weapons delivery systems , has a shares portfolio that includes cigerettes.it buys up real estate in one of the worlds most lucerative locations ny,uses free labour to refurbish these properties along with its tax free status and then sells them on at a profit.it further extends it real estate portfolio by lending money at intrest ,for the building of more kh, again built with free labour and tax breaks, which are never owned by the cong,s who built them, but belong wts.

i am not an economist,though i would be hard pressed to come up with a better economic model than this, also it purports to be politically nuetral, so hopes to operate globally without restrictions, infact the (workers) have to pay the society ,by way of mag sales and donations, in order to give their free labour, no trade union protection or minimum wage.

g--gle, p--si,ya-oo, micro---t, would kill to have these advantages in the market place..

Snoozy

Seems like they are in the same financial situation as the Government..and we know where their money goes..

Politicians have deep pockets as do some of the Higher execs at the WTBTS...

Funny how so much alike the two are considering..

It's all about the money with both of them!

Snoozy

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I Guess I Don't Matter

by headisspinning in

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friends

i'm pretty upset.

my sister just asked me if my ex bothered to mention that both of my kids were announced as publishers last thursday night.. nobody said a word to me.. i just called my ex and told him that i was pretty furious - at least he apologized which i have to say, i have heard the words 'i'm sorry' from him about 5 times in the 14 years we we married.. anyway, i'm sad.

the kids didn't even bother to tell me... i would like to think that means it's not important to them... but with a sinking feeling i think that i'm what doesn't matter..

Snoozy

Berengaria wrote:

Don't forget that the JW's have a 25% retention rate. Meaning 75 out of 100 kids born in will leave. Maybe it's no big deal to them. Besides, kids have a very short attention span.

Jehovah's Witness answer to same question in 2008: (Numbers seem to have gone down since then)

A 2008 survey of religions by the non-denominational group Pew Forum showed that the Jehovah's Witnesses have the lowest retention rate of any religion. Only 37% of children raised as Jehovah's Witnesses remain in the Jehovah's Witness faith when they reach adulthood. The protestants are 80%, Catholics 68%. If Jehovah's Witness is the ONLY TRUE RELIGEON, then why do 63% of the children leave the religion when they reach adulthood?
If the survey is accurate (which I very much doubt) it goes to prove JW’s are not like any other faith, we have standards that must be met, if youths leave it’s because they want to do their own thing & don’t want to live up to the high standards of the bible.

Whereas in other religions they stay because they can do pretty much what they like & still stay in their faith, we are the only religion that practices disfellowshipping just like the first century Christians.

I have been to America & went about with Mormons for a fortnight, lovely people, but they went to Nevada to gamble, got drunk, etc etc in short they did just as they pleased regardless of their faith. JW’s stand in stark contrast to these other faiths, we live by bible standards & those that don’t want to abide by the high standards, leave.

The majority of young people within Jehovah’s organization have followed a different course. Like Jesus’ disciples of the first century, they strive to conduct themselves in a way that reflects favourably on true Christianity. It is not their desire to be a reason for abusive speech to come from outsiders upon Jehovah’s organization and the truth. When such abuse does come they want it to be for the truths and the fine principles for which they stand and not because of bad conduct on their part. At all times they seek to prove themselves Christ’s disciples by good conduct, wholesome speech and sensible manners and dress. They want it to appear evident that they are not like worldly youths but are persons who have been taught by God’s organization.

Our record speaks for itself—

“Jehovah’s Witnesses—A Force for Good in the Community”

(1) We teach people to live by Bible standards of morality.
(2) We teach honesty and respect for authority.
(3) We teach harmony between races, nationalities, and social groups.
(4) We help others to improve their family life by encouraging them to apply Bible principles.
(5) We have taught thousands how to read and write.
(6) We extend ourselves to help others in times of disaster.
(7) We have been instrumental in securing religious freedoms that are enjoyed by all.

whereas 86% of the world CLAIM to have a faith & yet look at the mess of the world, we as Witnesses enjoy a worldwide brotherhood with no divisions.

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Well I am hurt

by mouthy in

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friends

my internet has been off since the 5th of april not 1 of you missed me .

i see where a big fight went on when the conference call was on( i only read some.

of your points).

Snoozy