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Mom's Being Guilted to Shun Me

by Lutece in

i thought my mom would never change, that she'd never really go along with the shunning, but last night she wouldn't let me stay to eat at their house when my dad made dinner.

my parents and i have been close all our lives, we've been through a lot together and for her to say that she has to be getting a lot more counsel from the elders.

she is being guilted into shunning me, hoping it will help me eventually come back to the truth.

somebody

And although jgnat might not like this { hi jgnat :-) I'm waving at you..can ya see me? :-) }, Lutice, please print this out and ask your mom to read it. even if you have to mail it to her.

jgnat reached into every thought I think we ALL had as Ex-jWs, and always forced ourselves not to think about as JWs.

I thank you jgnat, for telling what you did. It helps more than you know. And if you don't want me sharing your intense post with others, just say the word and I won't from now on unless I have your permission first.

peace,

gwen

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Tallyman...

by somebody in

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if anyone has his/tom's e-mail address or has kept in touch with him, can you please send me a pm?

somebody

Thank you, AlanF.

I appreciate this.

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Tallyman...

by somebody in

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if anyone has his/tom's e-mail address or has kept in touch with him, can you please send me a pm?

somebody

If anyone has his/Tom's e-mail address or has kept in touch with him, can you please send me a PM?

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Is becoming an XJW like growing up?

by ballistic in

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did your process of leaving the organisation and learning new stuff feel like growing up to you?

looking back at your time in the so called "truth", do you think you were misled or even "naive"?

even "innocent"?

somebody

Ballistic,

You asked and said::

Did your process of leaving the organisation and learning new stuff feel like growing up to you? Looking back at your time in the so called "truth", do you think you were misled or even "naive"? Even "innocent"? Do you think it is just the result of having your eyes opened to something that makes it feel that way? Or do you think there is a real process going on here?
Sometimes when people post those "going back to the hall" threads, this is the perspective from which I cannot understand it one bit. Once you have had your eyes opened, you cannot un-learn what you know, or return to innocence.

I feel as if I could have written the same thing on looking back on my life in being raised a JW. I had the same thougths and I asked MYSELF the SAME questions that you have asked here. I could never understand anyone "going back to the hall" either. For me, it was like a child going back to believing that there really is a Santa Claus. Once you grow up even to the age of say....6 or 7, your natural thougths are that there isn't and you face reality no matter how much you really wish Santa existed. Comparing that with what you said, I did look at leaving the borg and facing real life as growing up. I knew that "going back to the hall" was not going to help me grow up and live life in reality, nor could I have sat there and listened to make -believe land, no more than a child can "go back to believing" that Santa Claus really exists. But even coming to that conclusion took me quite a few years. It takes a long time to grow up! ;-) peace, gwen

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Man vs. Woman

by somebody in

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if the wbts inc have done anything, they have insutled men just as they have insulted women.

while they implied that women are evil and always trying to induce man into evil, they have implied that men's brains are in their genitals.

in that that view, the wbts are part of this world.

somebody

I guess men were created to follow the lead and not take the lead in certain circumstances in life. If there is a female around, then being the HEAD brings on a whole different meaning!

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Looking for reference to pre-1981 view of disfellowshipped family members

by CaptainSchmideo in

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can't find it through the normal searches on the 2001 cd (gee, i wonder why...).

thanks in advance!.

somebody

It does not matter what was PRE 1980's. Family ties have ALWAYS been broken in a cult such as the WBTS INC. because what they teach INISIDERS is opposite than what those INSIDERS will turthfully admit to outsiders. Just as adherents to any other cult will do.

http://hometown.aol.com/haroldev3/myhomepage/profile.html

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Man vs. Woman

by somebody in

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if the wbts inc have done anything, they have insutled men just as they have insulted women.

while they implied that women are evil and always trying to induce man into evil, they have implied that men's brains are in their genitals.

in that that view, the wbts are part of this world.

somebody

If the WBTS INC have done anything, they have insutled MEN JUST AS they have insulted WOMEN. While they implied that women are evil and always trying to induce man into evil, they have implied that men's brains are in their genitals. In that that view, the WBTS are part of this world. And the ole COWS AND BULLS article should speak volumes.

I think all you men should speak up !

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Jesus came in 1874 and then changed to 1914, no problem, per FDS

by garybuss in

prefatory note .

(to watch tower reprints wtb&ts 1919) .

the watch tower is unique among all the publications in the world.

somebody

If you read the WBTS INC' s "spiritual food at the proper time", Jesus returned twice already. In 1914 and again in 1918. ( and that isn't counting the year 1918 when Jesus actually did something! ) This is what "it" has been feeding it's followers since way after "it" changed it's mind about 1874!

If Jesus' return means "parousia", then that would mean that Jesus keeps returning and then disappearing,again and again. For his invisible return is supposed to happen for at LEAST a third time in the future, according to the corporation with special insight into advanced knowlegde that no one else has.

peace,

somebody

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I Quit my job today ? Just venting

by hippikon in

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i?ve been away from the board for a while ?

i had a new high-pressure sales job that took all my time.

(we just moved interstate and i took the first job that came along) .

somebody

((((((((((((hippikon)))))))))))))))))))))),

You have a very special place in my heart. And if ever the two words "honest" and "salesman" would ever be put together, you'd be why the two words were put together in my opinion, and through my personal experience with salesmen/saleswomen.

A job in sales is a very hard job for honest people to be in.

I hope all is well with you and yours!

peace,

somebody/gwen

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Had a strange dream last night...

by Elsewhere in

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i usually don't wake up remembering any dreams... but every now and then i do and this morning i woke up from a reeeeeally strange one.. this is how it went:.

i meet this girl from india... she is dressed in a traditional looking outfit.

she is very attractive, aside from one problem: she has a disorder that causes her to grow hair all over her body and face.

somebody

Steve,

somebody said to elsewhere

Whose on first?

LOL.! So true! But I'm about to make a point in asking what I asked and in saying what I said.