Happy Birthday Five Shadows
Blessings
Song
happy birthday to me...happy birthday to me...happy birthday dear five...shaduh..yeah....happy birthday to me!
...(takes a bow) ~fs
Happy Birthday Five Shadows
Blessings
Song
i understand that there is to be an apostate fest here in seattle next weekend.
does anyone have info on that?.
there is supposed to be one in eagle creek oregon sometime in sept. i think also.. i would love an opportunity to put names to faces and have "fellowship" :d with like minds.. thanks in advance.. blessings.
Thanks Carmel and Lew for responding. I have something happening Saturday
at this point, but am thinking about trying to change my plans. If I can get up
there it would be great, but we will have to see.
Blessings,
Song
i understand that there is to be an apostate fest here in seattle next weekend.
does anyone have info on that?.
there is supposed to be one in eagle creek oregon sometime in sept. i think also.. i would love an opportunity to put names to faces and have "fellowship" :d with like minds.. thanks in advance.. blessings.
Hi All,
I understand that there is to be an apostate fest here in Seattle next weekend. Does anyone have info on that?
There is supposed to be one in Eagle Creek Oregon sometime in Sept. I think also.
I would love an opportunity to put names to faces and have "fellowship" :D with like minds.
Thanks in advance.
Blessings
Cheryl AKA Song
http://www.daydreamings.com/disney/index.html
you are a true bookworm and dream of a life better than the simple, .
quiet one you lead now.
I'm Megara!
You are a quick-witted tough dame with a tongue of steel. This jaded, cynical outlook is your suit of armor worn to protect you from further hurt and mistreatment. You may have been burned in the past by a love. Though your history weighs on your mind, you still have a little bit of faith in love. Don't deny it, girlfriend! Let go of the past and move on, embracing life's possibilities. But being more optimistic doesn't mean you have to lose your wit or independence!
OK now for the question, since I am sorely lacking in my Disney education. Who is Megara???
Thanks for the topic Dutchie.
Blessings,
Song
early this morning i noticed a couple of racoons in my back yard searching for food.
there's a huge park/forest in my back yard.
i quietly opened the door and left some treats for them.
FYI, I am in the Pacific Northwest also.
What makes me smile these days is my 21/2 year old granddaughter. There is just something really special about her. I love to watch her as she discovers life around her. I find that I need my Bailey fix every couple of weeks.
Another thing that makes me smile, is not being subject to the rules of the WTS anymore. I now have decent self-esteem which makes smiling all the more possible. Knowing that I am in charge of my life :D
Blessings
Song
on thursday evening, i received a phone call from a young woman, i have been helping by talking and emailing.
i have never met her.
bill bowen put her in touch with me nearly a year ago.
Mulan,
Your point is well taken. I find it real easy myself to be swept away with the current in chat. After years of borg control, it can be real hard to find proper balance. I am so sorry your friend had that experience. Harm to a persons soul is so much more deadly than anything done to the body.
The other thing I have noticed, while we are on this topic, is sometimes certain ones may want to make decisions for someone else, like telling them to leave the organization ect. The thing I think needs to be remembered is we each have to live our own lives and make our own decisions. People will hear only what they are ready to hear and do what we are ready to do. When I am trying to be supportive of someone, I feel it is important for them to know they have the inner strength and wisdom to make the proper decision for themselves if only they will tap into that strength. This is what has worked for me and given me strength to carry on. I'm by no means any expert in this area and frequently feel like a hypocrite when I fail to follow through being prone myself to judgement bossiness and tactlessness
Remember the proverb about handing someone a fish, feeds them for a day, but teaching them to fish, feeds them for a lifetime.
Blessings to all
Song
do superstitions control your life?
that's the cover article of the august 1st 2002 watchtower.
a prime example of the mongrel dogma that results when a religions.
OMG Prop:
Had to go look that one up. May have to read Leviticus again to see what other tidbits are in there. (been a long time since I've done any serious Bible reading)
I do agree about the WTS clearing away former superstitions for their own brand of superstitions. They seem to have forgotten, that "truth shall set you free", not further enslave.
Blessings,
Song
elders and culpability revisited.
since the issue keeps coming up no matter what (watchtower ingrained in all jws the position elders had and how no one should question the elders.
on the other hand, we should all turn in errant publishers).. i would like to say first that i have said some harsh words on the subject, to amazing and to marvin shilmer and to jst2laws and hillary_step (i read the book "into thin air" and i know what that means now!!).
Dungbeetle,
I came to a similar conclusion when I read "30 years a Watchtower Slave". Today the rank and file are doing what has always been done for no other reason than it has always been done that way.
I have heard it said that cows will walk the fence around and around. After a time, you can take the fence away, and they will still "walk the fence". When we give up our freedom of thought and give ourselves over to anyone to think for us, we run the risk of becoming as those cows.
As has been said before in this thread, judgement is not needed. We are all(JW, exJW, abuse victim, ect. ect. ect.) just doing the best we can with the information and skills we have available to us. Judgement only helps to erect barriers (christians judge non-christians, one race judges another, and so on.) We on the outside of the Borg, would be of more help, IMHO, if we made ourselves available to those who are searching for a way out. Those who are not looking to leave JW, well that is their choice and their right. The information about the WTS is available for the asking.
As far as I am concerned, God is able to call anyone to Himself, no matter where they are and whatever life situation they may be in. I can't help wondering, if my father in law hadn't judged my decision to study with JW's, would I have come to be part of them for 18 years. I will never know.
Blessings to all,
Song
any fellow exjw's from oregon ... the beaver state ... ?
i left many years ago, but i know that when i did, oregon was the highest state in america for witnesses vs. the walking dead (worldly people who would fry at armageddon).
i don't see many of them now, but i figure they must also have the highest number of walk always, df'ed, and da'ed.
I currently live outside of Portland in Beaverton.
I DA'd myself in '96. I lurk around this forum regularily, but haven't had much to say.
Song
i've finally gotten up the nerve to make a clean break.
this saturday at 3:00, i'm having lunch with an elder.
(those latins eat so late!
I've been lurking around here for awhile, but I just have to ask, Why does it seem that so many feel that a lawyer is necessary when one is dissasociating or being disfellowshipped???
Enquiring minds want to know ;D
Thanks,
Song