Would you rather see Bush fail or a stable society for the Iraqi people? Why?
Do anyone hate Bush or America so much that you would rather see military failure which will mean more death and carnage for the Iraqi people and the US/Allied military? Or would you like to see a Bush/Allied military success, giving the Iraqi people a chance to govern themselves toward a stable democratic society?
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Bush failure or stable Iraq?
by Spartacus inwould you rather see bush fail or a stable society for the iraqi people?
do anyone hate bush or america so much that you would rather see military failure which will mean more death and carnage for the iraqi people and the us/allied military?
or would you like to see a bush/allied military success, giving the iraqi people a chance to govern themselves toward a stable democratic society?
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Tell me what are the Tories are about...
by Spartacus inplease give me your opinion what the tory (not sure of the spelling) party is about.
it is the conservative party in the uk, what is your opinion of it?
if they had things their way what would uk be like today if they dominated for the last 10 years or so?
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Please give me your opinion what the Tory (not sure of the spelling) Party is about. It is the conservative party in the UK, what is your opinion of it? If they had things their way what would UK be like today if they dominated for the last 10 years or so? Do you think the UK is better off with the Labour Party or any other political party, why?
Thanks, Spartacus
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"Liberal media" or being paid by the republicans?
by Simon inseems the bush administration does not want free and fair press coverage.
bye bye "land of the free".
we hardly knew ye.. http://www.cbc.ca/story/arts/national/2005/01/17/arts/armstrong050117.html.
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Europeans have no reason to look down their noses at Americans. Look at all the countries in the world the Brits, French, Dutch and the rest of European governments, OCCUPY and sucked resources at below market prices while the poor in those countries do not benefit, France and Britain are especially guilty of this. Hell where I work I run into fine UK people all the time in fact my boss is from London and he says he will never return to live although he really loves his country. And I don't blame him I spent some time in London and had a great time even though I think most people there are being hoodwinked by their far left wing media. I was astounded by all the ignorant news they get. The left have done a lobotomy on our friends in Europe, they got them so that they will believe anything anti-American, what a shame that they have lost their ability to be objective. If the news does not fit their political sensibilities they reject it, I think this is from getting news from the far left had a bit of a brainwashing effect on Europe, very similar what the JW's do. The left, Socialists, Liberals, control the media in Europe and the media have the masses under control like good little pets.
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Is Global Warming just a load of BS...
by Zep ini get the impression that a lot of the industrial countries really dont give a sh*t. recently there seems to be a lot of people saying man has nothing to do with it.
or, that its really not that bad.
govenrnments dont seem to care too greatly either, i'm thinking of australia and the usa at the moment.
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Bjørn Lomborg is right on target...
Nonsense, says Lomborg. These are just scare stories put about by ideologues and promulgated by the media. There is little evidence that the world is in trouble, he claims, and a good deal more that suggests that we've never had it so good. Air quality in the developed world has improved markedly over the last 100 years. Human life expectancy has soared. The average inhabitant of the developing world consumes 38% more calories now than 100 years ago, and the percentage of people threatened with starvation has fallen from 35% to 18%. The hole in the ozone layer is more or less fixed; the global-warming threat has been much exaggerated. And though we worry incessantly about pollution, the lifetime risk of drinking water laden with pesticides at the EU limit is the equivalent of smoking 1.4 cigarettes. In short, the world is not falling apart; rather, the doom-mongers have led us all down the garden path.
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"Liberal media" or being paid by the republicans?
by Simon inseems the bush administration does not want free and fair press coverage.
bye bye "land of the free".
we hardly knew ye.. http://www.cbc.ca/story/arts/national/2005/01/17/arts/armstrong050117.html.
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Armstrong Williams is NOT a Liberal LOL, he is as Conservative as they come so the title of your subject is wrong, Simon. In fact he is a Neo-Conservative.
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Is Global Warming just a load of BS...
by Zep ini get the impression that a lot of the industrial countries really dont give a sh*t. recently there seems to be a lot of people saying man has nothing to do with it.
or, that its really not that bad.
govenrnments dont seem to care too greatly either, i'm thinking of australia and the usa at the moment.
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I think this sums it up at what this is all about. I agree with the article I posted above.....
Under the Kyoto Protocol, undeveloped Third-World nations ? including China, India, Brazil and Mexico ? will be free to produce whatever they want. Yet 82 percent of the projected emissions growth in future years will come from these countries. This is why many critics see is global wealth redistribution scheme rather than a real plan to improve the environment.
"The wealth of the United States is, and has always been, the target," says Tom DeWeese, president of the American Policy Center. "The new scheme to grab the loot is through environmental scare tactics."
He predicts international corporations, "who owe allegiance to no nation, will bolt America and move their factories, lock, stock, and computer chip to those Third World countries where they will be free to carry on production. But that means the same emissions will be coming out of the jungles of South America instead of Chicago. So where is the protection of the environment? You see, it's not about that, is it?"
He points out that hidden in the small print of the treaty is a provision that calls for the "harmonizing of patent laws."
"Now, robbing a nation of its patent protection is an interesting tactic for protecting the environment, don't you think?" he adds.
DeWeese concludes: "The fact is that one person now stands between the global warming jackals and economic sanity ? George W. Bush. Will he stand firm in his opposition to the Kyoto Protocol? Or will he capitulate to massive international pressure and sell America's soul?" -
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Why did I leave after 50 yrs a JW
by londoner ini am not posting this to justify my actions, i am doing so for the benifit of any witnesses who are unsure about there feelings toward the "truth".
i was a reguler pioneer for about 8 yrs, back when it was 100 hours a month, befor thet i did a couple of yrs as a vacation pioneer, they later changed the name to auxilery pioneer, and during the following 20 yrs i had a few intermitant spells as an auxilery when i had time to.
during my pioneer years i have given talks at circuit assemblies and had assignments at district assemblies .
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Good good for you Londoner!
In my case I don't think the bitterness will ever completely fade away, 18 years in the borg for me, I have not been back since 1996. :D Loving life and it's great! :D :D
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Is Global Warming just a load of BS...
by Zep ini get the impression that a lot of the industrial countries really dont give a sh*t. recently there seems to be a lot of people saying man has nothing to do with it.
or, that its really not that bad.
govenrnments dont seem to care too greatly either, i'm thinking of australia and the usa at the moment.
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Earth has been through how many ice ages? And what I have read and heard that each ice age starts with the warming of the earth that is part of a cycle of coming out of the last ice age which will everntually lead to another ice age. The warming of the earth throws more water in the atmosphere and sends it to the poles of the earth that freezes it, over thousands of years the earth slowly rolls into an Ice Age and then slowly warms again. All that depends on the antics of our Sun and the wilderness of the universe as our solar systems obits our galaxy every 300 milliion years. I think it's over hyped. But we all should follow the general principle to not POLLUTE. Check this article out regarding the hype and who is really behind it....
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=42521
Here is the hype....
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/environment/story.jsp?story=603975
FROM JOSEPH FARAH'S G2 BULLETIN
'Global warming' hype reaches fever pitch
But critics doubting data compare ideology behind movement to Communism, Nazism
Posted: January 24, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern
© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com
As cold weather sweeps across much of the U.S. and buries New England in several feet of snow, global warming hyperbole reached new heights today as an apocalyptic international report, "Meet the Climate Change," warned the world is reaching a "point of no return" that will bring unprecedented famine and drought catastrophes.
The report was assembled by the Institute for Public Policy Research in Britain, the Centre for American Progress in the United States and the Australia Institute.
It warns the danger point will be reached when temperatures rise by 2 degrees Celsius above the average world temperature prevailing in 1750, before the industrial revolution ? and the world may be only 10 years away.
While the global average temperature has risen only 0.8C, according to the data gathered by those advocating radical actions, the global warming lobby sees the glass half empty ? cautioning the world has little more than a single degree of temperature latitude before the crucial point is reached.
In addition to famine and drought of spectacular proportions, the report warns of increased disease, sea-level rise and the death of forests.
"There is an ecological time bomb ticking away," said Stephen Byers, former British transport minister and a close ally of British Prime Minister Tony Blair.
The report urges all G-8 countries to agree to generate a quarter of their electricity from renewable sources by 2025, and to double their research spending on low-carbon energy technologies by 2010.
The report comes just three weeks before the Kyoto Protocol, designed to deal with the climate change issue, takes legal effect on signatories Feb. 16.
The controversial Kyoto Protocol became binding on industrialized nations who have signed onto it after Russia reluctantly moved to ratify it.
But, Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin reports, Vladimir Putin's personal economic adviser, Andrei Illarionov, said last summer Russia's approval of Kyoto came under severe duress ? an "all-out and total war on Russia" directed by Blair. He said the pressure included "bribes, blackmail and murder threats."
Illarionov said global warming advocates refused to answer questions posed to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change at a Moscow symposium. He claimed British science advisers tried to stop skeptics from being heard.
"When this attempt to introduce censorship ... failed, other attempts were made to disrupt the seminar," said Illarionov.
Illarionov said "none of the assertions made in the Kyoto Protocol and the 'scientific' theory on which it is based have been borne out by actual data. ... There is no evidence confirming a positive linkage between the level of carbon dioxide and temperature change. If there is such a linkage, it is of a reverse nature. ... The statistical data ... are often considerably distorted if not falsified."
While some in the U.S. have offered sharp criticism of the ideology driving the global warming crusade, none of the rhetoric has been as penetrating as Illarionov's, who compared it "with man-hating totalitarian ideology with which we had the bad fortune to deal during the 20th century, such as National Socialism (and) Marxism."
"All methods of distorting information existing in the world have been committed to prove the validity of these theories," he continued. "Misinformation, falsification, fabrication, mythology, propaganda. Because what is offered cannot be qualified in any other way than myth, nonsense and absurdity.
Illarionov's comments, made in a press conference, were quoted by the Moscow News but received little international attention.
He described the protocol as "one of the biggest, if not the biggest, international adventures based on man-hating totalitarian ideology, which, incidentally, manifests itself in totalitarian actions and concrete events, particularly academic discussions, and which tries to defend itself using disinformation and falsified facts. It's hard to think of any other word but 'war' to describe this."
Yuri Izrael, one of the three vice chairmen of the panel, said: "The Kyoto Protocol aims to impoverish our country, and not only us but our children and grandchildren."
"There have been examples in our fairly recent history of how a considerable portion of Europe was flooded with the brown Nazi ideology, the red Commie ideology that caused severe casualties and consequences for Europe and the entire world," said Illarionoc. "Now there is a big likelihood that a considerable part of Europe has been flooded with another type, another color of ideology, but with very similar implications for European societies and human societies the world over. And now we in Russia are facing a historical opportunity: Are we going to let the genie out of the bottle as the previous generations let the Nazi and Communist genies out of the bottles or not?"
While Putin agreed to participate in Kyoto, some observers believe he left Russia enough wiggle room for his country to back out of ratification.
Under the Kyoto Protocol, undeveloped Third-World nations ? including China, India, Brazil and Mexico ? will be free to produce whatever they want. Yet 82 percent of the projected emissions growth in future years will come from these countries. This is why many critics see is global wealth redistribution scheme rather than a real plan to improve the environment.
"The wealth of the United States is, and has always been, the target," says Tom DeWeese, president of the American Policy Center. "The new scheme to grab the loot is through environmental scare tactics."
He predicts international corporations, "who owe allegiance to no nation, will bolt America and move their factories, lock, stock, and computer chip to those Third World countries where they will be free to carry on production. But that means the same emissions will be coming out of the jungles of South America instead of Chicago. So where is the protection of the environment? You see, it's not about that, is it?"
He points out that hidden in the small print of the treaty is a provision that calls for the "harmonizing of patent laws."
"Now, robbing a nation of its patent protection is an interesting tactic for protecting the environment, don't you think?" he adds.
DeWeese concludes: "The fact is that one person now stands between the global warming jackals and economic sanity ? George W. Bush. Will he stand firm in his opposition to the Kyoto Protocol? Or will he capitulate to massive international pressure and sell America's soul?" -
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Wow I'm still registered here :)
by Spartacus init's been a long time since i posted here.
merry christmas!
:d hope everyone is in good spirits.
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Well thanks for the warm welcome back :) I was browsing the threads and I have to say this board have a lot of intellectual opinions that makes for interesting reading and thought. Most people who were JW's are typically truth seekers anyway therefore always searching and having an opinion, :)
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Wow I'm still registered here :)
by Spartacus init's been a long time since i posted here.
merry christmas!
:d hope everyone is in good spirits.
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It's been a long time since I posted here. Merry Christmas! :D Hope everyone is in good spirits. It's been more than a year since I posted.