Posts by Teddnzo

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Chelmsford Dedication

by Teddnzo in

zoe has nephew in the new bethel and we have been there to visit him.

even had a meal in the new dinning room and had a tour.. it was a bit underwhelming and the display of old bibles open to pages showing jehovah’s name is supposed to prove everything they say is spot on!.

everyone is talking about the upcoming dedication where members of the gb are flying over.

Teddnzo

Bluesbro it is far less than the old Bethel which is being turned into a luxury old people’s home.

Thats all the new Chelmsford Bethel is now, a luxury old people’s home for the lucky few who don’t get kicked out.

It’s just an old people’s home with lots of volunteers taking care of the gardens and looking after old people. Then all the volunteers looking after the volunteers making food for them and cleaning the many ponds

what do they actually do there? They do zero printing so what do they actually do?

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Lloyd Evans Patreoff Pool - October 2023

by DerekMoors in

it's not too early to place your bets for how many patrons his royal thighness will lose in october.

as of this writing, his tally stands at 457. so, where do you think he'll be on october 2?

lucky number 420?

Teddnzo

420 as Lloyd keeps spending all those donations on cannabis

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Teddnzo

He mentioned the long forum posts, so hi Lloyd knew you were reading these.

then he goes on to say he is a good man. This is news to me that a good man can cheat on his wife with sex workers and then lie about it.

the interesting thing is he is still going on about defending his good good name. This is ridiculous he still hasn’t apologised. In his eyes he thinks it is ok for married men to cheat on their wives and get involved with the sex worker industry which we all know often exploits underage females

he is still saying that the case against those who called him out on being a hypocrite “it’s because of the slow legal system and gives the impression that just have to wait for them to get their act together and justice will be done.” This is a lie as we now know he has lost

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Is Tony Morris a Nonce / Pedophile

by MebyonKernow in

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this has just been posted on youtube regarding tony morris and the reason why he was removed as a gb member and 'relocated'.is tony morris a pedophile / nonce?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ahj9vxygkelet me know your thoughts down below.celtic.

Teddnzo

All quiet on the Western front?

They got away with it with Greenlees, Chitty and Jarez maybe they are going to get away with it again and hope it gets forgotten about like the last three members of the GB who were accused of child sexual abuse.

Interestingly those who remember Chitty being on the GB say the official story is that he was homesick and that’s why he came back to London to live out his days.

Chitty remembers Russel that’s how far back he goes and my wife’s grandma had him round for tea after the ministry one time. This was after he got taken off the GB. He was still a celebrity with the moniker former Governing Body member.

I wonder what will be the reason for Tony that will be doing the rounds?

It will be difficult if the official story is poor health as the other members of the GB get older and they don’t come off their positions for poor health?

but most PIMIs will never put 2&2 together

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Chelmsford Dedication

by Teddnzo in

zoe has nephew in the new bethel and we have been there to visit him.

even had a meal in the new dinning room and had a tour.. it was a bit underwhelming and the display of old bibles open to pages showing jehovah’s name is supposed to prove everything they say is spot on!.

everyone is talking about the upcoming dedication where members of the gb are flying over.

Teddnzo

Zoe has nephew in the new Bethel and we have been there to visit him. Even had a meal in the new dinning room and had a tour.

It was a bit underwhelming and the display of old Bibles open to pages showing Jehovah’s name is supposed to prove everything they say is spot on!

Everyone is talking about the upcoming dedication where members of the GB are flying over. There will be several thousand old Bethelites and such passing through over a few weeks with a big tent on the grounds for luxury parties etc as they usually do.

interesting that about 300 living there and more than that living elsewhere but volunteering to come in and work for free. All on their own dime. Even security brothers travel by train then bus to sit and watch monitors all night.

the big wigs know they are onto a good thing with all this free labour.

All congregations are invited to watch the big events at their KHalls next summer when it finally happens

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ex-jw-uk

by bigmac in

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i'm quite new to this site, & have realised some members have a union jack symbol under their avatar.

i don't.. could we have a "show of hands" from any uk members?

i've already found several by reading older posts..

Teddnzo

Tedd and Zoe we are from London.

we both go way back both sides of the family grandparents and all.

Zoe has nephew in the new Bethel and we have been there to visit him. Even had a meal in the new dinning room and had a tour.

It was a bit underwhelming and the display of old Bibles open to pages showing Jehovah’s name is supposed to prove everything they say is spot on!

interesting that about 300 living there and more than that living elsewhere but volunteering to come in and work for free. All on their own dime. Even security brothers travel by train then bus to sit and watch monitors all night.

the big wigs know they are onto a good thing with all this free labour

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FACT: The "faithful slave" was personally selected in 1919......

by BoogerMan in

.........by the elite in the wtbts, who then became the self-proclaimed "faithful slave.

" (sans divine interference!).

as attested to countless times in decades worth of literature.. all succeeding members were then "personally selected" by existing "slave" members.

Teddnzo

The elephant in the room is how Jehovah selected Leo Greenlees as governing body who then sexually assaulted at least one ten year old boy. Also Ewert Chitty was selected by Jehovah to join the governing body who also was accused of sexual deviance with a teenage boy.

Similar story with Jarez who was accused of similar and now of course Tony Morris has been accused of similar.

If he was involved with that sort of thing then it will be such a shock all those years on the GB who claim to be selected by Jehovah. But this is not the first time what about Greenlees, Chitty, Jarez and now of course uncle Tony.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Teddnzo

485, is that near the point where he jacks it all in and heads back to the UK with his tail between his legs?

what if it gets under 450? Will he have to go and get a job? Oh wait he can’t because he still hasn’t bothered to learn the language

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Faded then apostate?

by Teddnzo in

if someone has faded so they are not known as a jw for a few years there is no need to be disfellowshiped or announced that they are no longer a jw.. so they wouldn’t need to be shunned the same way as if they did a hard exit like writing a letter or something.. so if evidence arose that such a faded person was sinning there still would be no need to announce that they were no longer a jw the same as if they were known as a jw.

family members and members of the congregation would not shun them?.

what would happen if such a faded person became apostate?

Teddnzo

A wise man said Here is my strategy to help faders or those who WANT to fade, but are afraid of any interrogations by JW's.

Maybe something here will be of use to you. It's served me & my wife very well for several years: If confronted with an accusation about anything, do not reply to it, but immediately ask for the names of your accusers. (plural) If only one name is provided (or none) simply reply that you do not wish to discuss someone's error with the elders - or anyone else - and that you will meet with your accuser alone, as Jesus instructed. (Matthew 18:15-17) In order to fade as painlessly & safely as possible from the Org, it is imperative to always keep in mind this trauma-saving rule when in the presence of any J.W.'s, but especially elders: "Divulge nothing". Giving personal information to any such ones will be like putting a rope around your own neck. Sadly, many J.W.'s don't/won't have the nerve/courage/know-how to refuse to discuss personal things when questioned by the "appointed shepherds," - but it's very easy! I once had the C.o.B.E. say to me threateningly, "Are you REFUSING to talk to us?" Never forget that the elders KNOW they can't compel you to talk with them, so they rely on your fear of their non-existent authority to comply with their interrogation. The following is by no means comprehensive, but it is simple, straightforward, and very effective if you are offered either a "shepherding call" or invited into the back room at the Kingdom Hall for a "chat". If the FORMER, simply say "thanks for your offer brothers, but not at the moment. I'll let you know when I feel ready." If the LATTER, let them reveal what's on their minds. (your lack of field service, meeting attendance, etc.) Now you're ready to say something along these lines: "Thank you for your concerns brothers, but I have private & personal issues which I can't discuss with anyone at the moment - except in prayer to Jehovah - but I certainly appreciate your motives and concern. It's good to know that if things change I can call you. Thank you for your concern". Elders' Conversation Stoppers: ELDERS: "We only want to come and give you encouragement." Simply repeat the response above, especially the phrase "private & personal." ELDERS: "But how can we help you if you won't talk to us?" Reply: "Everyone has private & personal situations which they can't discuss with others, and I'm sure that includes the elders - I'm no different!" ELDERS: "Are you REFUSING to talk with us?" Reply: "No, I just don't want to discuss things right now. I'll call you if things change." If they try to push with their interrogation, just say "thanks" and walk away immediately! Do not prolong their interrogation. They can't punish you for ending a conversation. Repeat any/all of the above to anyone - and I mean ANYONE - because the elders will likely get someone you trust, to get you to talk. If you rehearse & practice your responses, you will be so much more confident and ready to fend off any attempts to ambush you. Always display a meek but firm disposition. Never act confrontational with the wolves, because the alpha-male in the pack will incite the others to attack you!

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Could this be the end of JWs? What are the consequences if it is?

by Teddnzo in

multiple very serious allegations against tony and then huge efforts to remove him from all pictures and videos, have to admit it doesn’t look good.. once the pennsylvania investigation becomes public knowledge and front page news it will be very very hard for 8 million pimis.. is it possible that this could be the largest problem the branch has ever faced?

larger than 1975, the overlapping generations or any other ‘test of faith’.

many will feel heartbroken and betrayed.

Teddnzo

The area where I grew up had almost all young ones leave the JWs, all congregations in surrounding area.

Similar story to where my wife grew up her generation about 90% of the children left. Now all middle age.

So if you count how many people were once a JW and now left, or parents were and never joined once old enough I expect it’s more than 2 million.

Now what if you count all the PIMO or at least PIMQ?

My guess is there are probably 4-6 million fully indoctrinated PIMI and about the same number that fit into one of these categories- PIMQ, PIMO or POMO.