I’m with the others who said don’t be shunned by every JW in the world for the rest of your life if you don’t need to be. Far better to leave without being shunned forever
Teddnzo
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My decision.
by MissDaSilva ini’ve decided to disassociate from the jw organisation.
i cannot be part of a community that blatantly rejects the sacrifice of jesus in that demonic memorial ritual.
amazing what information you find when you start researching.. i’m writing my letter and posting it to the kingdom hall this morning.
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Why are the 2 newly appointed Governing Body Members from Bethel, when there are anointed ones all over the world? they could have used.
by RULES & REGULATIONS inlibrary.
books & brochures.
enjoy life forever!—an interactive bible course.
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Teddnzo
Yeah, One of them admitted he didn’t want to be GB.
Nobody in their right mind would want to take on a load of dead mens false teachings and be trapped with them, how can they unwind all this 1914 nonsense without the truth coming out that this is all man made?
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Changed behavior of the governing body on the topic of “vaccinations” in the Covid era
by Pedro ini'm looking for an explanation why the gb has made a radical change on the issue of vaccinations.
was there pressure from outside?
were there any financial or other benefits to promoting experimental genetic therapy?.
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There is bound to be a U turn on the covid vax just like the U turn on beards. They may even try to change history and say they always said it’s up to you if you take and be neutral. But it’s far too late for that.
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Bible based faith peculiarities
by menrov inlooking back on what i accepted to believe at the time, i now realize how peculiar some of things were:.
- people talking to a snake.
- killer of brother, who was recognized for his great offer, walks free and protected.
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Teddnzo
“- killer of brother, who was recognized for his great offer, walks free and protected”
Who are you talking about Cain? I don’t know what you mean? What is unbelievable about this?
”- first humans knew how to make children without any instruction, compared to how teenagers are informed about sex”
Adam was naming all the animals for a time, he would have seen the male and female and that’s why he wanted the female of his kind.
He probably said ok Eve bend over I’ve seen other animals do it like this😍
I’m sure if you didn’t teach anything at all about sex to kids once they are old enough they will figure it out! anyway would have been fun finishing out the first time.
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So what happens next...
by Farmer Jim1 inwith what is arguably the biggest change to jw life in recent decades (the scrapping of publishers counting hours) what does this lead to?.
in my mind these are the results;.
1) a massive decrease in 'preaching hours'.
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Teddnzo
Ron’s list with some additions:-
if the watchtower's plan is to quietly wind the jw religion right down to JWLITE just an almost entirely online religion. The yoke is very comfortable with almost zero load.
1.The first step, sell as many kingdom halls as possible leaving a skeleton selection of halls that lots and lots of congregations share. Some having to travel a long way. But it’s ok mostly zoom meetings just try to get to in person a few times per year.
2. Get as many donations on a regular basis from the remaining kingdom halls publishers.
3.Decrease the regular and auxiliary pioneer hour requirement even more.
4.Reduce the circuit overseers visit to just a couple of days. Wednesday first ministry group, one midweek meeting and a nice easy weekend.
5.Get rid of district overseers completely.
6.Lay off as many at bethel worldwide as possible. Send them back to the field and wash their hands of them, ask members of congregations to look after them.
7.Reduce the meetings to mainly just watching prepared videos. No preparation needed to take any item.
8.Remove the requirement to count time and submit a monthly report.
9.Allow brothers to have a beard.
10.Cart witnessing and informal park and public place witnessing replaces door to door work. Door to door is only done very seldom for ten mins at a time.
11.Electronic books and magazines and the jw website heavily promoted.
12.Stop printing the wt and awake and release just a few copies a year - or rehash older copies for the public.
13. New light on shunning and disfellowshipping. If person may feel suicidal then don’t have JD, meaning hardly anyone is ever needed to be shunned ever again, Elders ask each other could this make them feel suicidal? Better to be on safe side don’t disfellowship anymore.
14. Last minute placing your bets is fine. You can wait to see if their horse comes in or not, then place your bets after. So you can’t lose. If what JWs says starts to happen you can place your bets after, until then place your bets that JWs are wrong. This new lite at 2023AGM changes everything.
Link-ALL IF THE ABOVE HAVE HAPPENED, these next ones are speculation-15. The big one new light on 1914. “We can’t be dogmatic we just don’t know”
maybe Michael was not Jesus, we just don’t know. Maybe the battle in heaven did not happen in 1914 we just don’t know.
isn’t it wonderful how Jehovah reveals new light just at the proper time.
16. New light on birthdays as long as nobody get their head chopped off it’s a matter of personal choice. ( So many have been celebrating birthdays anyway the GB lost control of that one)18. So many have been going for advanced education the GB lost control so released in update saying while we have warned about the dangers of high education we have never made rules against it. We have never said Elders who have children in higher education should come off. (They try to delete the video where they showed exactly that but it’s out there on the internet and they can never claim they did not say that)
19. New lite on who qualifies as an elder as they are desperately short. Even teenagers can be MS or elder if they meet the lighter requirements which as about the same as being a publisher previously
20. Tony Morris gives a deathbed confession which breaks his NDA but it gets leaked anyway. He talks about how Jarez, Chitty and Greenlees were all GB members who were involved in CSA. This is why the secret database can’t ever come out because three GB names are on it. Along with many other top dogs who weren’t GB but we involved in participating and involved in the cover ups. He is now very sorry he covered for these Pedo’s, he wants to apologise to Selena Vertalomo and her sister and all the other victims!
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My decision.
by MissDaSilva ini’ve decided to disassociate from the jw organisation.
i cannot be part of a community that blatantly rejects the sacrifice of jesus in that demonic memorial ritual.
amazing what information you find when you start researching.. i’m writing my letter and posting it to the kingdom hall this morning.
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Teddnzo
“I advise researching anything that gives you fear, like the "Armageddon" nonsense for example. It is necessary not to just take yourself out of the religion, but to take the religion out of you.“
I would say there is no need to fear anything with the 23 AGM update. You can place your bets after the horse race finishes.
May as well place your bets that JWs are wrong and if it turns out they were right you can change your bet once you are absolutely sure. We all know for sure that JWs are wrong but this just helps someone leaving if they still have a fear of Armageddon.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)
by Simon inuh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
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Teddnzo
“Of course he can do the easy thing and completely dissappear and close his patreon account and get a 9-5 job but we all know he won't do any of that...and that's why we are still here”
At what point will this be inevitable? When his patron number dip below 100 or long before that? Hardly any views to his seldom videos he can’t have enough income from YouTube
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Where is Tony?
by Athanasius inon february 22, 2023, anthony morris iii was officially removed from the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.
a few months later it was revealed that the watchtower bought him a house in lumberton, north carolina.. however, and correct me if i am wrong, since leaving the gb nobody has reported seeing tony attending jw meetings or participating in field service.
in fact nobody has reported seeing him anywhere, not even at a local liquor store.
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Teddnzo
Why has nobody done a stakeout outside either house?
These days stakeouts can be done by placing hidden cameras facing the area you want to cover.
You can buy cameras designed just for this they can be as small as and in the shape of dice from a board game. Just drive past in the early hours and set them facing the houses. They are motion capture so only start recording when someone comes in or out of the door. Battery lasts for days.
if any of the xjw YouTubers wanted to do a fundraiser for a project like this then my wife and I would pay good money towards it
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JWLITE
by Teddnzo ineven elders can be part of the new jw lite brigade these days.
they don’t need to go on door to door anymore and there is no requirement for anything really.. taking meeting parts is all dead easy you could turn up on the day with zero preparation because it’s all in the meeting workbook.. quarterly elders meetings are just old men having a good old natter just like old men do down the pub.. congregations could be likened to pubs or bars these days just without the drinks, those come at other times.. no need for territory maps, these almost went away with covid letter writing now they are extremely slow getting finished as those who still go door to door only do ten mins.. you could even voice your questions these days about things the gb say and then just say “we can’t be dogmatic we just don’t know”.
i predict they will say this about 1914 soon..
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Teddnzo
Ron’s list with some additions:-
if the watchtower's plan is to quietly wind the jw religion right down to JWLITE just an almost entirely online religion. The yoke is very comfortable with almost zero load.
1.The first step, sell as many kingdom halls as possible leaving a skeleton selection of halls that lots and lots of congregations share. Some having to travel a long way. But it’s ok mostly zoom meetings just try to get to in person a few times per year.
2. Get as many donations on a regular basis from the remaining kingdom halls publishers.
3.Decrease the regular and auxiliary pioneer hour requirement even more.
4.Reduce the circuit overseers visit to just a couple of days. Wednesday first ministry group, one midweek meeting and a nice easy weekend.
5.Get rid of district overseers completely.
6.Lay off as many at bethel worldwide as possible. Send them back to the field and wash their hands of them, ask members of congregations to look after them.
7.Reduce the meetings to mainly just watching prepared videos. No preparation needed to take any item.
8.Remove the requirement to count time and submit a monthly report.
9.Allow brothers to have a beard.
10.Cart witnessing and informal park and public place witnessing replaces door to door work. Door to door is only done very seldom for ten mins at a time.
11.Electronic books and magazines and the jw website heavily promoted.
12.Stop printing the wt and awake and release just a few copies a year - or rehash older copies for the public.
13. New light on shunning and disfellowshipping. If person may feel suicidal then don’t have JD, meaning hardly anyone is ever needed to be shunned ever again, Elders ask each other could this make them feel suicidal? Better to be on safe side don’t disfellowship anymore.
14. Last minute placing your bets is fine. You can wait to see if their horse comes in or not, then place your bets after. So you can’t lose. If what JWs says starts to happen you can place your bets after, until then place your bets that JWs are wrong. This new lite at 2023AGM changes everything.
Link-ALL IF THE ABOVE HAVE HAPPENED, these next ones are speculation-15. The big one new light on 1914. “We can’t be dogmatic we just don’t know”
maybe Michael was not Jesus, we just don’t know. Maybe the battle in heaven did not happen in 1914 we just don’t know.
isn’t it wonderful how Jehovah reveals new light just at the proper time.
16. New light on birthdays as long as nobody get their head chopped off it’s a matter of personal choice. ( So many have been celebrating birthdays anyway the GB lost control of that one)
17. Blood transfusions are permitted if it really means every other option like cell saver has been tried first and it would mean loss of life without. (Again so many have been having blood transfusions the GB lost control)18. So many have been going for advanced education the GB lost control so released in update saying while we have warned about the dangers of high education we have never made rules against it. We have never said Elders who have children in higher education should come off. (They try to delete the video where they showed exactly that but it’s out there on the internet and they can never claim they did not say that)
19. New lite on who qualifies as an elder as they are desperately short. Even teenagers can be MS or elder if they meet the lighter requirements which as about the same as being a publisher previously
20. Tony Morris gives a deathbed confession which breaks his NDA but it gets leaked anyway. He talks about how Jarez, Chitty and Greenlees were all GB members who were involved in CSA. This is why the secret database can’t ever come out because three GB names are on it. Along with many other top dogs who weren’t GB but we involved in participating and involved in the cover ups. He is now very sorry he covered for these Pedo’s, he wants to apologise to Selena Vertalomo and her sister and all the other victims
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Changed behavior of the governing body on the topic of “vaccinations” in the Covid era
by Pedro ini'm looking for an explanation why the gb has made a radical change on the issue of vaccinations.
was there pressure from outside?
were there any financial or other benefits to promoting experimental genetic therapy?.
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Teddnzo
Trust the pseudoscience it’s set, the covid vaccines are safe and effective.
You don’t need to know what is in them, how it affects the body long term, just trust the science.
Ignore the excess deaths in the most vaccinated populations, that’s all coincidental