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  Stupid Analogies/Illustrations/examples you hear dubs say over and over

  by doodle-v in

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  what are some stupid analogies that you here dubs use all the time to explain their faulty, destructing teachings?

  or maybe ones you've used in the past that when you think about them now, make you cringe?.

  here are a few that come to mind:.

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  BUT THE FARMER LOOKED AT THE WOLF AND SAW HOW MATTED HIS COAT WAS AND HOW HE SMELLED LIKE THE REST OF THE PACK. HE SAID TO THE WOLF, "I DON'T KNOW YOU." HE RAISED HIS RIFLE AND SHOT....BANG!!!! THE WOLF WAS DEAD!

  BROTHER MCINTOSH SAID THAT THERE WAS SILENCE IN THE AUDITORIUM, AND THEN THE BROTHER GIVING THE TALK SAID, "BROTHERS, WHEN ARMAGEDDON COMES AND JESUS IS DOING HIS DESTRUCTION WORK, WILL HE RECOGNIZE YOU?"

  So, the moral of the story if you are a JW,is... it isn't okay to be a wolf, as Jehovah created you. It's not okay to live in the wild, your natural habitat. You must learn to be something other than what you are. You must ignore your instincts. You must go against your nature to please the farmer. You must not investigate other places to live or talk to others of your kind.

  Geesh! What a terrible analogy!

  I bet they all went "Ah!" and nodded their heads when they heard this one.

  Tammy
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  EMBARASSING SECRET thoughts you have

  by Terry in

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  i think i might (if it is possible) be.......slightly...inclined toward foot fetishism....but only slightly.

  but, i find that i look at attractive feet and find them esthetically pleasing.

  and......slightly (only slightly) exciting.. i have no idea what this means.

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  Love2Bworldly wrote:

  (I always worry I am too chubby to be attractive as I have gained some weight)

  Don't worry. The chubby chasers in the office find that enthralling too.

  Tammy
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  InterNet Impact ???

  by ljwtiamb in

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  having read through these posts for the past several weeks, i was just wondering:do you know (or heard) of any other groups (religous, politcal, corporate, etc.

  ) that are being impacted by the internet like wts?is anyone else warning their current membership of internet dangers from dissidents?are other anti-groups being formed via boards, blogs, chats?.

  i'm sure that there must be others, but am interested in what you are seeing develop out there on the web.

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  I imagine the Amish are too busy just warning their members not to get electricity.

  Tammy
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  No longer innocent

  by fairchild in

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  we are now approaching the year 2005, i am again going to all the meetings and most of my friends are jw's.

  however, i don't feel that 'love' for god, and i certainly don't feel that he listens when i pray, which i do every day.

  after talking about this with an elder, he suggested i study some more, and i am currently studying the book 'worship the true god'.

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  Good journey to you!

  It does get easier, eventually. How long eventually is depends on the individual and what is learned along the way.

  Tammy
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  Funny Story my Husband told me last night!

  by whyamihere in

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  my husband, and i were driving doing errands.

  we had passed this carpet cleaning business.

  he then started laughing i looked at him weird as i always do and i said "what's so funny?

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  There was a brother back in the 70's who told us not to do street witnessing in front of a certain men's clothing store on a popular corner right downtown. The store was "The Gay Blade" and we were told people might get the wrong idea.

  Geesh!

  Tammy
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  Are JWs a cult? Well, just ask them ...

  by ljwtiamb in

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  w94 2/15 pp.

  5-7 are jehovah?s witnesses a cult?

  are jehovah?s witnesses a cult?.

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  The public was reminded of previous instances in which cult members were led to death by their leaders: the 1969 Manson murders in California; the 1978 mass suicide of cult members in Jonestown, Guyana; the 1987 murder-suicide pact engineered by cult leader Park Soon-ja of Korea, which resulted in the death of 32 members. Significantly, most of these people claimed to be Christians and professed belief in the Bible.

  Understandably, many who respect the Bible as the Word of God are appalled at the brazen misuse of the Scriptures by these cults. As a result, over the years hundreds of organizations have been established for the purpose of monitoring cults and exposing their dangerous practices. Experts on cult behavior predict that the coming of a new millennium in a few years may trigger the proliferation of cults. One news magazine noted that according to anticult groups, there are thousands of cults "out there poised to snatch your body, control your mind, corrupt your soul. . . . Few are armed but most are considered dangerous. They?ll seduce you and fleece you, marry and bury you."

  Hmmmm. It is so strange that they can't see that their stance on blood transfusions appall people as well. Some of those who are most appalled at Jehovah's Witnesses are those very cult monitoring organizations and cult experts they speak about in the above paragraph. Those experts lump JWs in with other cult religions and groups. Some like the JWs are in the mainstream, but then there are cults on the fringe, as Manson, Jonestown, and David Koresh groups were.

  Tammy
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  Are JWs a cult? Well, just ask them ...

  by ljwtiamb in

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  w94 2/15 pp.

  5-7 are jehovah?s witnesses a cult?

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  This article is written for a specific audience. Notice how they tell just enough of the truth to lead people to accept their viewpoint. Which people? We'll discuss that later.

  Cult members often isolate themselves from family, friends, and even society in general.

  The key word here is often. They didn't use the word always, so this is a true statement. Then talking about JW's they make this statement:

  And they do not live in communes,...

  Which is also true, but it implies that all cult members do live in communes. The fact that some cult members do not live in communes and also interact with society in general is completely ignored. Is that because this shoe fits?

  ... isolating themselves from relatives and others. Jehovah?s Witnesses recognize that it is their Scriptural responsibility to love and care for their families. They live and work with people of all races and religions.

  Which is where they finally deviate from being totally truthful. They often do isolate themselves from relatives and others, especially if they are not JW and belong to a different faith. And if their relatives happen to be former JWs, then they are shunned to an extreme degree. People in my office have remarked (without knowing my background) that JWs they worked with would isolate themselves when it came to holiday parties, lunch breaks, etc. They have also remarked that when these people did take part in these activities, they weren't being very good JWs.

  Which leads me believe that this article isn't written for "worldly" people at all. The "worldly" people know full well that JWs isolate themselves. This article is clearly written for JWs that have heard others call them a cult, to convince them that they are not a cult. It is written with just enough false logic and and half truth to lead them into deluding themselves that they are okay.

  Why am I so sure of my opinion? Because at one time I would have read this article and said they were absolutely right.

  Tammy
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  Are JWs a cult? Well, just ask them ...

  by ljwtiamb in

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  w94 2/15 pp.

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  After working with Jehovah?s Witnesses in connection with an international convention, the same official observed: "Now I see normal, smiling people, even better than many people I know. They are peaceful and calm, and they love one another very much." He added: "I really do not understand why people tell such lies about them."

  Why do they tell such lies? It is because these liars are not of the body. They must be absorbed into the body. It is the will of Landru.

  Tammy
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  I've got DVR!!

  by heatherg in

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  now i'm a total tv junkie.

  i've got 2 recievers so i can record 2 shows at once.

  i just set them on a timer and i'm good to go.

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  It's so nice to have Tivo. When we want to watch something, we just check the now playing list and see what it has new for us. With season pass we never have to worry about if it is a new episode of Lost or a rerun, and we don't have to worry about missing an episode of a serial like 24. We just set it and forget it!

  What I also like is the ability to watch the news when it is convenient for me in the morning. I get ready, come out with my coffee, and reverse and play the news with the ability to speed through ads and the monotonous breaking news stories that they insist on focusing on. Plus I can freeze the 7 day forecast chart and study it a bit without having it flash by so quickly.

  If we are watching something and the phone rings, we just hit pause, or if they said something we didn't quite catch, we rewind. Plus we go to the bathroom or get a snack whenever we want. It's great.

  Tammy
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  Were you caught, did you confess, or did you run?

  by sass_my_frass in

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  hi, fyi: d'f'd a month ago, and glad you're all here.

  i'm just assessing the sum of the madness that happened since my parents guilt-tripped me into confessing what got me disfellowshipped.

  i do very sharply recall that at the moment i decided to do so i had an overwhelming feeling of relief which at the time i thought was me hating the lying about what i'd done and wanting to come clean about that and clear my conscience as a witness, but have since thought might have been me hating the lying about how i feel about the organisation and wanting to come clean about that as a human, ie, whether i'd turned the corner as a witness or i was glad to be getting away from it.

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  Basically I told them in a letter, "I don't want to be a Jehovah's Witness anymore because I'm taking a new direction with my life." But instead of accepting that I had just told them what I was going to do and I didn't give an F about what they did about it, they still tried their damnedest to convince me otherwise.

  This went on for about six weeks before they finally accepted things and quit bothering me. In the meantime, it got very crazy. They just couldn't accept the changes in my life and that I was just walking away from their organization.

  To appease my dear mother, who was really struggling with all of this, I agreed to meet with the elders. They quoted scriptures in the Mosaic Law to me. I told them to please use the New Testament as we were no longer under Mosaic Law because of Christ's sacrifice. They said they had even got the CO involved and wrote to Bethel. "Fine," I said. "I would be interested in what they have to say." Not because it would change my mind, but just because it gave me some more time to help prepare my family for what was coming.

  Their final response was some esoteric BS about some obscure Greek word, which almost made me laugh out loud. That was all they had? Was that the best they could come up with? They took their best shot and it was a BB pellet!

  I felt more empowered than at any other time in my life. The men behind the curtains where just humbugs. Good riddance!

  Tammy