Learn to be more assertive, which is not the same thing as being aggressive. I have had to do that, and it isn't easy, but it does let people know where your boundaries are.
Tammy
Posts by Swan
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by susu812 inwhy is it that good people are the ones who get treated like crap??
its like you have to be a jerk, rude, mean just to have good things happen to you.
if your nice then you get stepped all over.
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Honestly, do you think that JW's really like going to 3 or 4day assemblies?
by JH in.
honestly, do you think that jw's really like going to 3 or 4 day assemblies, especially when it's out of town, far away, and you have to take a motel room, and all the gas money and food money it takes, as well as having to sit down all day listening to endless talks...and that for 3 or 4 days in a row.. and often, they have to take a day off from work, to attend the friday meeting, so no pay for that day.. i think that the jw's are glad when it's finally over, not before.. .
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Actually Jourles, I was just being a smart-ass. It wasn't me.
Tammy
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Motive of some Posters
by love2Bworldly in"are you hiding what you truely are?
are you embarrased for what you have become?
sure sounds like it to me.
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Tammy--great point! That's an extremely positive way to look at the situation.
Alas, I don't always remember it in the heat of the moment, but I'm doing better. Tammy
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Honestly, do you think that JW's really like going to 3 or 4day assemblies?
by JH in.
honestly, do you think that jw's really like going to 3 or 4 day assemblies, especially when it's out of town, far away, and you have to take a motel room, and all the gas money and food money it takes, as well as having to sit down all day listening to endless talks...and that for 3 or 4 days in a row.. and often, they have to take a day off from work, to attend the friday meeting, so no pay for that day.. i think that the jw's are glad when it's finally over, not before.. .
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That happened to me once and I was livid. I had the perfect aisle "shade" seats on the Plaza level lined right up with the front of the stage at then Jack Murphy Stadium(in San Diego). When I was done making hoagies, I came back and my books and stuff were a few rows down in the aisle on the steps! The sister who was in my spot had a very arrogant look to her. I thought back then that she was probably df'd or inactive and that is why she came across as having a bad attitude.
Jourles! That was you? I'm sorry.
Tammy
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Motive of some Posters
by love2Bworldly in"are you hiding what you truely are?
are you embarrased for what you have become?
sure sounds like it to me.
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Some of our best posters today started out as trolls. Look at some of the first posts of some members here and you would be surprised at the amount of denial going on. Even Simon was a JW (but not a troll) when he started this site.
So remember, the JW troll you encounter today may be the VIP Apostate of tomorrow.
Tammy
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Honestly, do you think that JW's really like going to 3 or 4day assemblies?
by JH in.
honestly, do you think that jw's really like going to 3 or 4 day assemblies, especially when it's out of town, far away, and you have to take a motel room, and all the gas money and food money it takes, as well as having to sit down all day listening to endless talks...and that for 3 or 4 days in a row.. and often, they have to take a day off from work, to attend the friday meeting, so no pay for that day.. i think that the jw's are glad when it's finally over, not before.. .
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Swan
The first hour or two was rather exciting, but then the session started.
Tammy
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Motive of some Posters
by love2Bworldly in"are you hiding what you truely are?
are you embarrased for what you have become?
sure sounds like it to me.
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Swan
Can anyone tell me what the motive is for some people who post here such as the quote above? ; Besides the fact that they can't spell and are pretty ignorant, do they truly think these type of comments are going to lure someone like myself back to an evil, dishonest, religion of know-it-alls who are in the business of ruining people's lives and don't follow Jesus' loving example of how to treat people?
Faced with cognitive dissonance about what they find here on this site, and what they have been told about the WTBTS, and guilt for even coming here at all, they feel compelled to respond in order to differentiate themselves from us. They are at a total loss as to our real motives for walking away and staying away. Instead of actually asking us, they fall back on the WTBTS rhetoric about us, and project motives they have been indoctrinated with onto us. Then they can leave here feeling somewhat self righteous about visiting a site that is forbidden by their masters and so ease their guilty conscience.
Remember, we have a big advantage when it comes to dealing with JWs. We used to be them. We know how we used to think and feel, and how we think and feel now. They only know how we feel based on what their WTBTS masters tell them about us, which we know is not even close to true.
Tammy
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Do you have one favorite place on earth?
by AK - Jeff ini mean a specific location that you would go to time and again to just sit and look and enjoy?
or a favorite vacation destination?.
i love the cascade mountains as example.
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But if only you had said place and time, I would have picked on top of a sandy bluff on Cape Kiwanda (Pacific City, OR) overlooking the beach on a warm summer day in August, 1993. I was sitting there with my poodle Nikki, now deceased, and I was sure fond of him. I did some serious thinking about my life, and came to the decision to do something with it, even if it meant losing my family. After that day, I started taking my life back. But I can never go back there again.
So let's see...
I've been to many of the most beautiful places on earth, but something draws me back to Yosemite, even in my dreams. I often imagine myself in the valley alone, 500 years ago before, in it's most pristine state. It is a very spiritual place in my mind. Even when it is packed with tourists, I get a thrill looking at those granite monoliths.
If I can't go there, then Jed Smith State Park near Crescent City, CA because it's an incredible redwood forest which is very serene. That was also a very spiritual place for me. My husband and I hiked down the Boy Scout Trail one day just for several hundred yards, stopped, and listened to the silence.
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Dubs are sick people
by gringojj ini notice that when my wife misses meetings( about 60 percent of the time she does) she always tells her study person she wasnt feeling well.
her sister uses that excuse all the time too.
even her mom who has been in it 30 yrs often is too ill to go to the meetings.
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I notice that when my wife misses meetings( about 60 percent of the time she does) she always tells her study person she wasnt feeling well. Her sister uses that excuse all the time too. Even her mom who has been in it 30 yrs often is too ill to go to the meetings. I can recall severl times her study partner has been sick and not gone. Is this common everywhere?
I used to get sick a lot too, which later, after I left, I figured out was severe malaise brought on by acute depression. The weird thing was the symptoms, which were psychosomatic in nature, felt very real to me. I think the religion and living a lie was the huge factor. Faking that you were really wanting 99% of the world's population to be destroyed and were really happy with the idea of living in dead people's mansions would do that to anybody who isn't a sociopath.
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Trial begins June 27 Victoria Boer abuse case
by needs_lots in.
to all my friends or anyone who would like to support me, god knows i can use as many as possible, my dads criminal gardiner trial begins june 27 and 28 in orangeville ontario at the court house.. send lots of good energy my way............this will be the end of a very long journey.. vic
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Swan
Good Luck, Vickie! May justice prevail!
Tammy