Posts by Swan

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My first Post: Am I an ADULTERER?

by The Alchemist in

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today i visited my jw mother and i asked her a question.

i said, "mom if i was to get married would i be disfellowshiped?

" she said "well since you didn't have scriptual grounds for your divorce i would guess that if you went ahead and got married you would be committing adultery.

Swan

It would be a case of the pot calling the kettle black now, wouldn't it?

Since you didn't divorce on the basis of fornication or adultery, the WTBTS considers that a frivolous reason and you can be charged with adultery if you remarry.

However, the FDS and WTBTS, the bride of Christ, recently (10 years ago) entered into an adulterous relationship by contract (marriage?) with the United Nations, a.k.a. the disgusting thing that causes desolation, a.k.a. the wild beast, for the frivolous reason that they needed a library card.

Think about it.

Tammy

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Depression and Dubs

by pincushion in

since i have found this forum i have been doing a lot of online looking, particularily spying on what the dubs have to say about all the negative attention they have been getting in the news of late and through the internet in forums such as this.

i did a quick search on msn communites and came across over 70 online jw communities.

one particular posting on one community (#1 rated jw community on msn if anyone desires to look it up) i read a message thread on depression.

Swan

Dear Pincushion,

From what I read on depression, it is a chemical imbalance in the brain and there are drugs that can alleviate the symptoms, but it is more complex than that. Depression is also situational and/or can result from cognitive dysfunction (in otherwords, irrational thoughts and thinking patterns). All of this is cyclical. The stituation and improper thinking patterns beget the chemical imbalance which adds to the improper thinking etc. I don't know which came first in this chicken/egg scenario, but from what I understand, that is why meds and therapy are often prescribed together. It stops the cycle.

This is just a layperson's understanding of some of the literature and believe me I am no expert, so maybe a MS or MD can correct me if I'm wrong.

Tammy

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Halloween Is Coming- wanna have some fun??

by xenawarrior in

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http://www.jack-o-lantern.com/patterns/patterns.html

if you've never carved pumpkins- it's a blast!!!.

and then: pumpkin seeds!!!!!!!.

Swan

You eat the whole seed Razor. They taste a lot like sunflower seeds. Yum! Yum!

Tammy

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Even a broken clock is right twice a day!

by kenpodragon in

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a few days back i was talking to the one friend i have that is still a jehovah's witnesses.

actually, i think he is in denial that he left, since he has not been regular to meetings for four years.

well we got in this discussion about prophesy.

Swan

That problem is that you can not look at the small things a religion gets right, and ignore all the major things they got wrong. Even a broken clock is right twice a day, and it only stands to reason that if you throw 100's of prophesies out there over a hundred years or more, a couple are going to match something.

Excellent point KenpoDragon!

The King of the North and The King of the South were big ones in years past. We studied and studied those tediously wordy paragraphs in all of those garish colored books for years. It was drilled into us that the King of the North was the communist bloc and the King of the South was the Anglo-American Allies and that they would be fighting over the precious things in the earth (which the WTBTS interpreted as oil). On and on week after week we had this stuff, over and over again. Then in the mid 80's it all collapsed. The King of the North went bankrupt! Who foresaw that? Not the WTBTS. I really began doubting then.

Thanks for this point of view. I'm glad you brought it to our attention. It is very good.

Tammy

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The reason WE ALL Left WT- I'm so THANKFUL

by JT in

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just a few thoughts to ponder

all of our lives as jw we were condemned if we did any "independent thinking" and it was only after we did - were we all able to get out, o the smell of freedom

_________________________________critical thinking quotes.

Swan

I think that I tend to be a critical reader and thinker. I read a lot. And that is one of the things that made me doubt. It took me many years to finally get up the courage to leave my friends and family, but I'm so thankful I did. Don't get me wrong. I love my family and always will, but I just couldn't go on the way I was. There were other issues as well, but sitting through those meetings and assembly sessions became real torture when you started to see past the smoke and mirrors. I just couldn't do it anymore.

I'm so thankful too!

Tammy

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Kin and Mary Jo Suen

by Mulan in

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i posted this photo last night, but don't think many have seen it, since the thread is now on page 7. we spent time with kin and mary jo suen, in hawaii, where they served for several years in the circuit work.

we stay at a beach house on the north shore of oahu, and they were serving the congregation there while we were there.

we had dinner together and had some good talks during the week too.

Swan

Yes, they sure were nice people. There were many other COs and DOs that came and went and I was mostly glad to see them go, but the Suens were not among them. Real down-to-earth stand-out people and very funny. They were really nice to be around because you always had a smile on your face. I was sad to see them move on to other assignments.

Tammy

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Halloween Is Coming- wanna have some fun??

by xenawarrior in

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http://www.jack-o-lantern.com/patterns/patterns.html

if you've never carved pumpkins- it's a blast!!!.

and then: pumpkin seeds!!!!!!!.

Swan

Last year I took bloody fingers (cookies), ghost cookies, Martian spiders, and a graveyard dish to work for Halloween. It was as fun for me to make as much as it was for those that ate them. It's my most favorite holiday of the year. I love dressing up. I love watching the kids come to the door. I love the silliness. I even got to celebrate it a bit back when I was a JW, but nobody knew.

Tammy

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Kin and Mary Jo Suen

by Mulan in

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i posted this photo last night, but don't think many have seen it, since the thread is now on page 7. we spent time with kin and mary jo suen, in hawaii, where they served for several years in the circuit work.

we stay at a beach house on the north shore of oahu, and they were serving the congregation there while we were there.

we had dinner together and had some good talks during the week too.

Swan

I sure liked those folks. It was a treat whenever they visited our congregation. I seldom looked forward to a visit by the traveling overseers, but they were an exception.

Thanks!

Tammy

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good male friend

by diane401 in

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that's what im first looking for and who knows the bible,i mean jws and we take it from there cus i got a lot to share and a lot of loves you give.. so see you then.

is it then possible to find some in new-york?

Swan

WELCOME Diane!

I hope you find what your looking for.

Tammy

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Ozzie's Weekend Poll #21

by ozziepost in

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we've brought forward this weekend's poll because we're sure to have other things on our mind tomorrow!

just in case you missed it, try this link: .

http://sunday.ninemsn.com.au/sunday/cover_stories/article_1149.asp

Swan

Well if they showed up at my door I would have to figure it would be something pretty important that they had to tell me. Nobody has called on me for 8 years. I guess I am over my anger enough to ask them

2. Won't you come in?

After our conversation I would then put a tarp over our car to protect it from pig droppings.

Tammy