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  Are your sheep gay?

  by crownboy in

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  will god kill the gay sheep as well, christains?

  http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20021104/sc_nm/science_sheep_dc_1.

  gay sheep may help explain biology of homosexualsmon nov 4, 1:43 pm et.

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  Swan

  When I was growing up we raised goats. Mom's best friend was a sister a few miles away who, along with her unbelieving husband, also raised goats. They bought three kids that they called Peter, Paul, and Mary. Well guess what? Paul turned out to be a Paula. Paula was a hermaphrodite, and once she got older, it was determined she was more female than male. As I grew up I observed more barnyard diversity in our chickens. Our own goats even exhibited lesbian behaviors. Eventually I realized that this was just nature.

  Tammy
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  I've never met a JW who had confidence....

  by MegaDude in

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  ....about their beliefs.

  've talked with many jws since i began having doubts years ago:.

  sincere publishers.

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  Swan

  MegaDude wrote:

  Every time I began to discuss my questions with the elders to get help, they got jittery.

  It reminds me of the old Monty Python sketch about the apartment buildings that were built instantly by a psychic using the mental power of his mind. They were perfectly good buildings to live in, as long as you believed in them, but soon as you started doubting, the building would start to shake!

  Tammy
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  I've never met a JW who had confidence....

  by MegaDude in

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  ....about their beliefs.

  've talked with many jws since i began having doubts years ago:.

  sincere publishers.

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  Swan

  RandomTask wrote:

  I think a lot of Witnesses have a fear of living their life without being told what to do or what to believe in. They never want to remove life's training wheels. The simple idea that there is "nowhere" to go but to live your own life is completely foreign to them.

  Great observation. I heard my mom and my aunt express doubt to one another around the late 80's or early 90's. It surprised me that they had these thoughts and feelings too when all they had ever shown to us kids prior to that was a solid conviction. In private, they questioned if the society was wrong on something, and then said, "Well, even if it wasn't the truth, where else would we go?"

  They were raised in it just like I was. It was very difficult to venture out, and very scary. If only they had the courage did.

  Tammy
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  A good old fashioned book burning

  by iggy_the_fish in

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  hulloo all,.

  to cut a very long and oft told story (on boards like this at any rate) very short, i was partially raised a jw (tho' never baptised), and now i've reached the stage where my very modest collection of dub literature must be disposed of.

  it's lived in a box in attics and high shelves in various houses for the last 12 years during which time i've been sh*t scared to go near it, but equally scared to get rid of it for fear of seriously pissing off his almightyness up in the heavens.. well, over the past year i've been through a few of the usual "eye openers", coc & the gentile times thingumygig whatsit doodah, and evolution books too.

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  LB wrote:

  I found that the insight books require a little gasoline to really ignite.

  You mean, just like the religious/apostate/spiritualism literature that was found in the closets and attics of people plagued by demon visitations? You mean just like the demon possessed items from the second hand store?

  That these should share that in common with the Insight books is shocking!

  Tammy
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  ok! the page where pic of my kids are posted!

  by kaykay_mp in

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  here goes: jean-philippe, 2 1/2 mos.:.

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  Swan

  Aaawwwwwwwww!
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  Why were the Flintstones sexualized?

  by nilfun in

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  growing up a jw kid, there were things that, if not for the helpful instruction .

  i received from the brothers, i would have never known were sexual in nature.

  some examples:.

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  Swan

  Valis! LOL!

  Were the Flintstones and Rubbles the Bob and Carol, Ted and Alice of their time?

  And here I always thought I was watching an innocent cartoon. Who ever knew that Bedrock didn't refer the solid underlying foundation of rock beneath the Earth's surface? Who of us as children could have imagined it wasn't representative of the firm moral foundation of stone-age families?

  Tammy
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  Why were the Flintstones sexualized?

  by nilfun in

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  growing up a jw kid, there were things that, if not for the helpful instruction .

  i received from the brothers, i would have never known were sexual in nature.

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  Swan

  DakotaRed,

  You wrote:

  Many woult counsel you on saying "petered out," but would use the phrase "brown noser" and think nothing of it. The latter would refer to one who kisses butt.

  I never realized that. I always thought it was a reference to a dog, trying to please his master. Thanks for the insight.

  Also, about the F word, I believe it was originally an acronym for a court sentence. In old England, when people were tried for fornication or adultery, the court clerk recorded the reason for their sentence was For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge. Eventually just the initial letters of this term were written down.

  It reminds me of how the words smell, stink, stench, scent, and sniff, have evolved throughout the centuries. Stink and stench were once as innocent in their connotation as sniff. Now they are regarded as malodorous.

  If common words like this keep changing their meaning every few centuries, isn't it kind of silly to think that words written thousands of years ago should apply literally and to the letter to every aspect of our lives today?

  Tammy
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  Why were the Flintstones sexualized?

  by nilfun in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  growing up a jw kid, there were things that, if not for the helpful instruction .

  i received from the brothers, i would have never known were sexual in nature.

  some examples:.

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  Swan

  I noticed things like that when I was in the JWs. Growing up sheltered in a religious cult, I was rather naive about a lot of these sexual terms, hidden meanings, and innuendos. They told me not to use the word "dork" and "weener" or "weenie" because it was slang for a penis, yet they still use the word penis. Lots of inconsistencies like that.

  Maybe they should start requiring all of their people named Jones, Harry, Dick, Peter, Tom, John, Hooker, and Gaye to change their names.

  Tammy
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  The double dog dare at the Kingdom Hall

  by Princess in

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  last night i posted a picture of my watchtower jack o'lantern and lyin eyes double dog dared me to take it to the kingdom hall.

  sooo................. after the trick or treating was over, we loaded the kids in the minivan and drove to the kingdom hall.

  i put the pumpkin on the railing on the front porch right in front of the main entrance.

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  Swan

  Princess is one of those modern day apostates...

  who isn't opposed to playing an old fashioned Halloween trick!

  Love it!

  Tammy
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  First Halloween

  by freedom96 in

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  let me say first of all, i have never been a big fan of halloween.

  the witches, monsters, etc, never appealed to me.. last night, my family and i were invited to a friend of a friends house for food and trick or treating.

  my first inclination, was to find a way to weasel out of it.

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  Halloween is so great I started celebrating in secret before I left the JWs. My first was in 1988. I had a great costume and went 50 miles away to Portland where nobody knew me. Nobody in the KH found out and I had a blast. Got home really late. Work the next day was really rough, but it was so fun letting the kid in me have some fun.

  Last year we had a big party. Last night my husband and I just stayed home to pig pass out candy. But we only had 3 trick or treaters this year. Ever since 9/11 the number has diminished. Too bad. We used to get dozens.

  Tammy