this morning on the way to work, i burst into song.
not just any song ... but the heretofore forbidden "star spangled banner".
i just felt like singing and i wanted to sing something challenging and it seemed like the perfect choice.
Surreptitious,
I was just being facetious about the blood sausage, and yes, a bit of sexual innuendo too. However, it's nice to know that if I ever go to Spain and am offered blood sausage, it will be my prerogative as to whether to try it or not.
Tammy
there is christmas music blaring out in every shopping centre now, it started in mid-november.
it works a treat, reminds everyone to get spending.
most of it is rubbish, i feel so sorry for shopworkers having to listen to that for 7 weeks.
I really like Jose Feliciano's Feliz Navidad.
And so as not to be totally serious about the holidays, I also like the Bob Rivers rendition of Walking in a Winter Wonderland called Walking Around in Women's Underwear.
Tammy
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http://www.wfaa.com/vwilliams/stories/wfaa021126_am_jwabuse.4677c910.html .
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I like this line:
Of course, the soundbites don't allow for follow-up questions to accusations.
Obviously the media aren't being snowed by this BS.
Tammy
do you have any odd or unusual reasons why the elder's decided to cancel one of your meetings?.
i don't know if this is necessarily unusual but our hall lost power one cold day.
the meeting was cancelled.
I remember one service meeting that ended early. So did we all get to go home early. No young elder know-it-all had to get up on the platform and talk ad nauseam about some impromptu subject that nobody cared about. Well you should have seen the fidgeting in that hall. No one was paying any attention to what he said (I can't remember what it was about). They were all looking at the clock or at their watches, others were looking in the Kingdom Ministry at the schedule to try and determine where this talk was coming from.
Finally the meeting ended, and with song and prayer it was actually a few minutes over. After the meeting another elder, a practical man, came up and said to young brother holier-than-thou, "Where does it say if the material has been covered we can't go home early?" Many in the hall heard this.
Well years later, the young brother pious moved to another congregation where he made their lives a living hell. Brother practical stepped down as elder, moved to the coast, became inactive and happier. There must be a lesson in there somewhere.
Tammy
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unless you are famous for something how long are you really remembered?.
maybe you are remembered at most by your grandchildren, but then your presence in the universe is gone.. so, really, what difference does it make whether you die in your 40's or your 70's, your memory simply lingers another 30 years at most.
Joel,
You mean a lot to us cyber-people here, and I imagine you mean far much more to people who know you in the "real world." I've seen your website, and you look like a very kind caring type of individual that would be easy to love in real life. I care about you a lot and I haven't even met you. You are just words on a screen to me physically, but emotionally and spiritually you are much more to me. Your words touch me and affect me very much. When I first came here you were very supportive and very good to me. I would love to meet you for real, but we have a whole continent between us.
I too went through a period of dark depression. I came very close to ending it and only my husband's intercession prevented my attempts from succeeding. My doctor had tried several meds, but they weren't working. Then my doctor referred me to a psychiatrist who specialized in depression. She was able to determine exactly which meds would work best for the depression I had. I have been on them for about 5 years now, and along with therapy, I am doing so much better. True, I still have some down days, but nothing like it was, and I know it is only temporary until the pills lift me back up and out of the darkness again. I feel good far more than I feel bad, and that gives me a reason to go on now.
Have your doctor refer you to a doctor or clinic that specializes in depression. It worked for me and it is my fervent hope that they can find the right meds to work for you.
Tammy
some of you may know that my parents were expected for "dinner" on thanksgiving day.
well i really don't think its going to happen now.
i called my dad last night becuase my mother, now visiting my kids in south texas and bringing them here to see me, said they had "stuff to do on thursday".
Damn meddlesome CO! They are always sticking their holier-than-thou noses into the personal family business of people, and looking down those same noses at you while they are doing it. Such arrogance! I'm really upset by their high and mighty interference in what is basically none of their business! This really irks me Valis. I'm sorry your father caved in to this kind of pressure. It is so hard when your own family will listen to some smug, smarmy, CO instead of their own flesh and blood relatives.
BTW, how do you suppose the CO knew about your "apostate" associations?
This sure ticks me off.! You're a good person and your father is so blinded he can't even see it. I am feeling very frustrated for you. I hope you can enjoy the holiday without him. Perhaps some day he will come to his senses.
Tammy
this morning on the way to work, i burst into song.
not just any song ... but the heretofore forbidden "star spangled banner".
i just felt like singing and i wanted to sing something challenging and it seemed like the perfect choice.
Chomping down a good ol' blood sausage! Yum! Yum!
Tammy
even when i was a jw i thought it odd that witnesses gave so much importance to holidays.
when i was studying, i was bogged down with how awful they were because they are pagan and how wrong it was to celebrate.
it seems to me like more attention was donated to the issue of holidays than what the meat of christianity is.
NameWithheld wrote,
WC's reasoning is exactly like the WT's reasoning on birthdays - since people in the bible got killed on 2 people's birthdays they must be bad. Last I checked beheadings were not socially acceptable forms of birthday celibration in today's society But years ago an excecution was public entertainment. I guess humanity has always had a bloodthristy nature - just nowdays we have fake stuff to watch (movies, TV, video games) instead.
That is a very good point. I notice the WTBTS hasn't stopped preaching from door to door since two JWs were beheaded in the Philippines this summer.
Tammy
even when i was a jw i thought it odd that witnesses gave so much importance to holidays.
when i was studying, i was bogged down with how awful they were because they are pagan and how wrong it was to celebrate.
it seems to me like more attention was donated to the issue of holidays than what the meat of christianity is.
WingCommander wrote:
Pagans practiced human sacrifice - if that were part of Christmas, would you still do it??? Rediculous. I'm sorry, I don't find ANY pagan practice "harmless", no matter how "innocent" it has become down through the ages.....do you all really think that makes it ok? I wouldn't think that God would think so!!!
I fail to see the logic in this. It appears to me that this is rather black and white thinking. Didn't Christians also have a bloody history. I'm thinking of the Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, the Salem witch trials, and the Catholic/Protestant wars of England's history and Ireland's present. What about the Jewish history from which Christianity stems? Countless men, women, and children killed by Israelite armies because God promised them a certain piece of land. What about the human sacrifice of Jephthah's daughter or Abraham's sacrifice of Isaac, which was a certainty if not for the intervention of an angel?
There is good and bad in all religions, from my point of view, but the illogical black and white views of many of it's adherents is one of the main reasons that I don't follow any religion any more. I respect many of the things Christ taught, but I celebrate the holidays mainly as the secular holiday which it has become. I just don't see the point in rejecting the whole thing because somebody killed someone else a long time ago. Perhaps someone here can explain this to me? I would earnestly like to understand your point of view.
Thank you.
Tammy
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sorry for the red xs .
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I see three faces and some legs. Two are men and one woman, I think. I can't make out anything else.
Tammy
