Saename

Joined

• started 39 topics
• posted 656 times   see topics posted on
• send a message

Posts by Saename

• 
  51

  Why are anniversaries allowed but not birthdays?

  by hyperpen in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the scripture quotes aside, i was always told that we don't celebrate birthdays because that is a celebration of the self, which has no place in jehovah's organization.

  then why celebrate anniversaries?

  anniversary celebrations are about the joining of two selves, isn't that twice as selfish?.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Saename

  

  Just stop thinking about it; just let it go, and the problem will disappear. You'll see.
• 
  13

  An Odd Request from Our Ex-JW Son

  by TMS in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my wife and i, both out of the religion for nearly twenty years, live in the same border town as our 44 year old only son.

  we have scant contact with our numerous jw relatives, although a handful of clever "double life" nieces and nephews socialize with our son.. we care for our six year old grandson weekdays while our single parent son makes a living.

  we've been infinitely better grandparents than we were parents, primarily because of our exit from a high control cult, but also because of life experience.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Saename

  Was it the request from your son (to teach his son some Bible stories) or the request from your grandson (to play Minecraft) that you found odd? The title indicates the former, but I, being an atheist, don't find it odd at all, so I'm in need of clarification, it seems.
• 
  35

  Well... im disfellowshipped now.

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  very long story.

  i've been away from this site for a while.. basically, i tried to leave.

  handed in my disassociation letter, it kicked up a storm and 2 weeks later i was disfellowshipped.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Saename

  pale.emperor - My daughter wont be baptized into this i can promise you all that. [emphasis added]

  Calm down, cowboy! Not so fast! You don't have to promise us anything; we're not a cult trying to get people for our own cause! Promise it to yourself... That's the nice thing about not being a JW; you don't have to make promises to anyone, including the elders, that "you'll do more service next month."

  "To thine own self be true" – Polonius, Hamlet I.iii
• 
  13

  Little talk about blood fractions

  by wannaexit in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  it appears that watchtower is distancing itself from the blood fractions.

  the new "blood card" doesn't mention them and any mention of blood in the watchtower ignores fractions.

  i wander if they are going back to their hard stance.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Saename

  redpilltwice - Overlapping blood fractions maybe?

  Overlapping gods, too? Trinity, anyone?

  Oh, wait... That's paganism. That's right...
• 
  22

  I have proof Noah built the Ark just like God told him to

  by KateWild in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  .

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Saename

  I do hope that this is sarcasm. I think it is sarcasm. Please, God, let me be right this time.
• 
  14

  "Personal Decisions" (Study Article of July 11-17, 2016)

  by bats in the belfry in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  concise thoughts from the wtbts.

  par.2) however, there are numerous situations for which the bible provides no specific command.. par.3) in the absence of specific laws, how can we know what choices will please jehovah?.

  par.16) many matters could be decided one way or another, and jehovah would still be pleased.. .

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Saename

  When I saw this study article, I suddenly desired to attend the meeting tomorrow to give a stupid answer...

  Par. 6 has a question which reads, "What should guide our decisions?" I wanted to say that we need to think independently and reject anything absurd. Then, I wanted to give an example of the "overlapping generations" and reason, very briefly, why we should "reject outright such lies." (I'm "mis"quoting Stephen Lett―something that the Watchtower seems to enjoy.) I wanted to finish the answer by saying, "I do not answer to Watchtower. Watchtower does not, and never has had, any authority over me." All this would be an answer to "What should guide our decisions?"

  However, I soon realised that they would take the microphone from me anyway. But, heck, I would love to see whether any elders would want to talk to me after the meeting!
• 
  9

  the killings in Nice.

  by zeb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  anyone detained of these hate crimes; immediate detention of their associates and family.

  conviction?

  guillotine the offenders immediate deportation of the rest.. march on mes ami!

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Saename

  zeb - Nice pronounced,.. niece.

  
  
• 
  31

  I Just had a CLOSE ENCOUNTER of the Dub kind

  by TerryWalstrom in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i just frightened a jehovah’s witness lady half out of her wits!.

  i just frightened a sweet jehovah’s witness lady half out of her wits.... .

  she took off like a sprinter at the sound of a starter pistol!.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Saename

  Coded Logic - Wouldn't it be more productive to show the failed prophecies, historical inaccuracies, and contradictions of the Bible?

  I agree that there are failed prophecies, historical inaccuracies, and contradictions in the Bible. However, it is not always more productive to point them out to people who are not convinced of them. The reason is that fundamentalists will often go to the lengths of apologetics to justify those errors in the Bible. Such arguments as presented by apologetic Christians will not convince us who look for the rational Bible; nevertheless, they will convince those who already look at the Bible as the inerrant word of God, even if those apologetic arguments also involve historical inaccuracies.
• 
  12

  Fundamentalism Vs Radicalism

  by freemindfade in

  1. social
  2. current

  i had a thought this morning and i am putting it out for discussion.. when a christian is a nutjob we call them fundamentalist but a nutjob muslim is "radical".. doesn't one detach the person from the religion while one puts them square at the root?

  shouldn't we call radical muslim terrorists "fundamentalist"?

  .

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Saename

  freemindfade - Shouldn't we call radical Muslim terrorists "fundamentalist"?
  

  I forgot to deal with this question in the above post.

  Radical Muslim terrorists are fundamentalists. Radical Muslims are not radical Muslims but radical fundamentalist Muslims. It's just too long, so we simply call them "radical Muslims" since radicalism already involves fundamentalism. (I hope everyone understands what I'm trying to say...)
• 
  12

  Fundamentalism Vs Radicalism

  by freemindfade in

  1. social
  2. current

  i had a thought this morning and i am putting it out for discussion.. when a christian is a nutjob we call them fundamentalist but a nutjob muslim is "radical".. doesn't one detach the person from the religion while one puts them square at the root?

  shouldn't we call radical muslim terrorists "fundamentalist"?

  .

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Saename

  FayeDunaway offered a good definition from dictionary.com. A radical fundamentalist is someone who has an extreme interpretation of, for instance, the Holy Book, and seeks change or upheaval. Muslims are more likely to be portrayed as radical fundamentalists because not only do they have an extreme interpretation of Quran (when we're talking about people like ISIS sympathizers—not all Muslims), but they also seek change or upheaval in the society.

  Regular fundamentalists, such as Jehovah's Witnesses (I would certainly classify them as such), simply adhere to their doctrine in a very strict way. However, they usually do not seek change in the society—with the exception of fundamentalists who don't want their relative country to accept homosexuality etc. Nonetheless, even those fundamentalists will not break the laws of the land in order to force the change upon the society, which is unlike radical fundamentalists who don't mind upheaval.

  Basically, seeking upheaval in the society is what differentiates radical fundamentalists from regular fundamentalists.