Posts by Stacey

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How many time did you take to be cured?

by Nicolas in

i mean, when i read something of the watchtower, i still have sometime this old fear of armaggeddon.

i don't know why i have this fear since i found a lot of proofs that they aren't the true religion.

sometime, i would like to erase all these bad things that me and my family had in the jw and begin again but unfortunately, it's impossible.

Stacey

Nicolas,

I understand completely. I agree with the other posters. It never truly completely goes away. What is in your mind and experiences can never be erased. I left at the age of 17. And now, 12 years later at the age of 28 I still have left over fears that are founded on nothing. I know the religion is false. But being raised with their conditioning, it's taken me literally all of these years to get past most of that conditioning. All I can say is places like this and talking to others that have been in my place has been the best healing tool for me.

I wish you the best,
Stacey

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Raised as JW

by ReverendRoy in

as a former jehovah's witness i can both empathize and sympathize with you and the many others that have written here.

i apologize for the long post.

although i have posted this under a different heading, commie chris recommended a new toipic, thanks!.

Stacey

I'm sort of new to the board also. Been lurking for a long time, just started posting. The best thing about a place like this is that we all find out that we are not alone. And who can better relate than a person who has been thru a similar experience.

I'm glad we are all here to share with one another....

Stacey

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famous Jw

by freakshow in

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just curious are any well known famous people jw?

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Stacey

Slip- Yep it's me. :D Good talking to you today. You crazy Scorpio man! }:)

Stacey

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famous Jw

by freakshow in

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just curious are any well known famous people jw?

?

Stacey

If anyone has ever heard of the band, the New Radicals... they had a popular song out a few years back called "You Get What You Give". The album name is called "Maybe You've Been Brainwashed Too". The lead singer, a kid named Greg Alexander was raised by a JW mother. You can tell by listening to the album that the influence is there. Another song title is called, "Jehovah Made This Whole Joint For You".

It's actually a pretty good album. I liked it anyways.

Stacey

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Help for a non-Witness

by hagey in

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i'm looking for anyone who is married to a non-witness, or someone who themselves is not a witness but is married to one.

i'm in desperate need of advice and don't know where else to turn.

i myself am not a witness but my girlfriend is and our religous differences are forcing us apart.

Stacey

Ok, I touched on why this current JW/Non-JW relationship would not have worked. I forgot to touch on the fact that if things DID work and you had to raised your kids as JWs... well.... good luck on that. Most people that I knew growing up as JWs with one parent in and one parent out, were considered "spritually weak". My family was that way. My dad was baptized but only went to meetings maybe once a month. My mom was active. Our family was seen as "weak", and we as kids were treated this way. You are torn as a young JW. Take it from me. It's a very guilt-ridden life. Growing up feeling so different from everyone else is a tough way to do it. Not everyone goes thru this, but I did. You dont want your kids raised with this kind of control.

Well maybe you do. Just sharing what I've experienced. My family is much happier and better off now out of the religion and having nothing to do with it anymore.

-Stacey

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Help for a non-Witness

by hagey in

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i'm looking for anyone who is married to a non-witness, or someone who themselves is not a witness but is married to one.

i'm in desperate need of advice and don't know where else to turn.

i myself am not a witness but my girlfriend is and our religous differences are forcing us apart.

Stacey

Michele - Yes it's me! Things are great. Thanks for asking. It sounds like things are going well for you too? I hope the situation is getting better!

Hagey - You sound like a good man. I think I've discovered in my young 28 year life that love does not always conquer all. It sounds like you have some wonderful ideals. I hope that those ideals will work for you.... I really do.

Stacey

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Help for a non-Witness

by hagey in

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i'm looking for anyone who is married to a non-witness, or someone who themselves is not a witness but is married to one.

i'm in desperate need of advice and don't know where else to turn.

i myself am not a witness but my girlfriend is and our religous differences are forcing us apart.

Stacey

Hagey,

I was born and raised a JW. Left 12 years ago, and I know that it's not the religion for me, and definitely not the "truth". I would never go back. About a year ago I met a disfellowshipped man and we started dating. He was still in this awful spot that many JWs go thru, of still beliving it all but not sure he'd go back. Well, he decided he could not livee without his "truth" and decided to go back. He still believed all of their theology and started attending meetings again in order to get reinstated.

All I can say is if your beliefs are that different, and if you are both spiritual people, then this will be a very difficult relationship for you. I totally fell in love with this guy. But there is no way that it could have worked!

Everybodys situation is different. So I cannot say it wont work for you. But I know and have corresponded with many people who have been married to JWs and it just adds to the pressure of a relationship. God knows relationships are already hard enough to keep together without religious strife and differences. Most JWs are VERY strong about their beliefs and will not back down on anything.

Sometimes you just have to cut your losses. That is what I had to do. Yes it broke my heart to let this relationship end. But it was all for the best. At the time I knew "he was the one". But really it was not mean to be. There will be someone else that is more of a fit for me. I dont know your whole situation, and I'm sure you love her.... but think long and hard.

I wish you the best,
Stacey

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Can JWs trim their nose hair?

by roykaye in

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questions from readers.

is it scriptural to trim nose hair?.

a christian is governed by conscience.

Stacey

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA. Oh My God, that was such an informative article! I've really been moved to never trim again!

Not a frequent poster, just a regular lurker, but had to just say this one was brilliant.

Hehehe.
Stacey

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Hi everyone....

by Jeremy Bravo in

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as i sit in front of my computer in a drunken stupor wondering what might have been, i felt i had to post my story to those who might truly understand what i am going through.. i am a newbie here, but have been lurking around for the last few weeks.

i am 25 years old, from ontario, and totally heartbroken.. to give you some background, back in 1998, i studied with the witnesses because some friends of mine, whom i believe to be honest and sincere people, gave me (i thought at the time) some good advice to start a book study.

i did, and i really enjoyed it because i felt they presented everything factually and had a strong interpretation of the scriptures (i'm a facts man, you see).

Stacey

Jeremy,

I can totally relate...

A year ago I met a man who was disfellowshipped. I have been out of the JWs by my own choice for 11 years and I think they are not even close to the "truth". He felt differently, even though he had been DF'd for the past 5 years. So we KNEW up front that things were not going to work for us with this difference in thought. But I held out hope.. and I had a miserable 10 month relationship with him. During the time we dated, he decided he wanted to go back to the "truth". But he kept seeing me.

Well, he ended up being a very awful man. And I doubt he can ever get back into the JWs because of the things that he does and the lies that he tells. But before I ever found out about these things, I went through the same things you are going through. I loved the guy... and thought that we could not be together because of the JW issues. And I was right! Now looking back... I know that it was all for the best. Really Jeremy, you would not have been happy with her. Dont you want to be with another person who can think independently from the "mother", the organization? Dont you want a woman who is free from guilt? Who lives her life according to her own thoughts and principals?

I know this is a tough time for you... BUT you will make it through. These tough times build each and every one of us into who we are. Character is the word. This will teach you some lessons of life, and you will find someone who is much better suited for you someday.

Take care!!

Stacey

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An Example of JW Need2Get a Life

by JT in

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we have often times seen jw come here and say:.

why don't you guys get a life- well here is a perfect example of a group of folks who need to get a life.

while many of us left wt and have gone on to college and gotten jobs where we are able to provide these things for ourselves and our famiies poor jw are sitting around waiting to cash in thier new system coupon in order to get these things.

Stacey

Hello.

I've been a "lurker" of both h2o for the past year or so and this board as of recent. I really like reading what other people have to say, rather than putting my own thoughts out ot the line for the most part. My first post actually. I have seen and know many of you from the ex-jw chat rooms on yahoo.

I am thankful for boards such as these. It's been a fascinating year for me in my spiritual life. Haven't we all been through so much? People ask why we "dwell on this" and tell us to "move on". But like with any horrible experience, are we not drawn to others who understand us, who can feel our pain, who can comfort us, who can give us the support that we need? If this is what they deem "the devils table", then I would love to feast with you all. I can say that I am glad for my experiences thusfar in my life, including my being raised as a JW. Not that it was pretty or pleasant, but it definitely has shaped who I am. I think we have all gained a perspective that not a lot of people out there end up with.

You know... they can work their GUILT so well. What I think I need to steer clear of is speaking with THEM! Why do I go out of my way to have conversations with them? I think I need to stop that. All they do is pull out the old double-talk and "the road is narrow" and use their line that they are the "closest thing to the truth" that there is out there. I hear that from JWs all the time. You know, that one saying can make me sick to my stomach. The "closest thing to the truth". What is that supposed to mean. IF god did reveal himself to us through a man-made religion or a man-made book dont you think it would be the perfect infallible truth? There would be no question about it? There would be no wondering if there is anything closer? There would be no mistakes, no contradictions, no question by all mankind. I just dont get why people put their complete and utter unquestioning faith and trust in man-made systems. Ranting, sorry.

They say that the only reason we have left the non-truth (as another poster calls it) is so that we can go out and live our life of sin. So that we can do what we want to do without answering to anyone. They say that without their organization, we are nothing. How much more wrong could they all be? With their limited, close-minded perspective on things, can we blame them for saying these things? Do they know each of us "apostates" individualy? Do they know how we spend our time or live our lives? Can they get into our brains to understand why we are the way we are? No. They are right when they say one thing... the truth is the truth no matter what we apostates say. Fine. I'm ok with that statement, because they dont HAVE the truth. They always ask what we have found to replace the non-truth. Why does one have to find a "better" religion than the jws in order to have a relationship with or a believe in a god or creator? It's so ingrained in their brains, that is the only way they can see it.

Funny how two people can look at the exact same things and see something completely different. I guess that's all I have to say for now.

Happy day to you....
Stacey

"Most people would sooner die than think; in fact, they do so. " - Bertrand Russell