Lisa Bobesa? Are you from the Sunnyvale/Bay Area originally? Did you go to a local KH? I grew up in this area and still live here also. Just curious!
Stacey
pardon this off topic please.. i thought i could get some good input here.. i'm sending my son on a mini-break (vacation) for his birthday.. he's always wanted to see san francisco.
(yes,im still a mother hen too :>) he has just a few days so what would you recommend as a 'must see'?
what will really give the 'flavor' of sf?
Lisa Bobesa? Are you from the Sunnyvale/Bay Area originally? Did you go to a local KH? I grew up in this area and still live here also. Just curious!
Stacey
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i found out i had been "terminated" from my last job and found out on my first day back from vacation......argh, oh those cc bills!
well, i went out and immediately signed up with about 7 temporary agencies.
NY, I cannot figure you out? You sit on the fence. But you seem like you are very much feeling out. What are you thinking????
c'mon, 'fess up.
shouldn't you be workin'?
I dont post often, but I'm here reading every day. My job is REALLY BORING and there's not much work going on. I have several free hours a day that I can spend on the internet. How sad is that? Thank goodness or it would get in the way of my daily review of this board! (Kidding). I'm quitting this boring job in December so that I can go travel next year. Then I'll REALLY miss reading the board.
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i voluntarily dissasociated myself about 5 1/2 years ago.
i did not know anything about the things on the internet i just had a feeling that something was not right and i needed to exercise my right to be free and make free decisions.
how happy i was that a year after i dissasociated myself i got on the internet and found a wealth of information and a heck of alot of encouragement.. anyway my question is to those who have been out and free before the days of the internet.
Bboy, just saw this post.
You are right, it is duty to help people out. I agree it is a very destructive group that kills and ruins lives. I know this. Take for example my friend who commited suicide. I am not sure, but I would say his JW background had a lot to do with his death. All I am saying is that there are people who are happy in the organization. There is nothing that anyone can do or say to get them out. They will never leave because they are SO brainwashed. My life goal is not to save people from what they are responsible for themselves. People will make their own decisions and if they are so staunch in their beliefs then no matter what you or I tell them, they will not leave the "truth". This is life. Nothing can change it. As I said, no one got me out of the religion. I came out using my own brain. We have to give people credit that if they have that same use of their brain, I think they'll come out eventually. If not, there is nothing anyone else can do.
Yes, when someone comes to the board or comes looking, searching and doubting the "truth" then I think it's anyone's duty here to share what we know. But I would not track down current JWs who are "happy" with their spiritual life and "know" that they have the "truth" and try to get them out of the religion.
That's all I was saying.
Stacey
did being in the org really screw up your idea of what dating is.. i gues you would have to had "courted" in the org to answer this question.. the orgs idea of dating is in a sense to get married.. while outside.... marriage isnt even thought of for a looooong while.. my question is because i dont know if a girl is .
being casual or brushing me off : )
LOL... who needs dear abby when you have apostates. You're a crack up. Dont ask her if she wants to continue it - just ask her out again and go from there. Take it easy with things. Be cool. If she wants to see you again she'll say yes. It doesn't have to be complicated. Just go have a good time.
Between 25 & 30 and you haven't figured it all out yet? It's ok... you probably never will! Haha. Men and women, how does anyone make it work?????
in response to the commonly-repeated myth that all ex-witnesses are bitter angry people with nothing better to do then attack their former religion, i thought we should set the record straight.
where are you in life right now?
are you doing things that you always wanted to do, traveling to interesting places in your free time, making great new friends, generally enjoying life?
I will ignore GodRule's ignorant comment...
Yes, life is good after leaving the lie. I'm just now preparing to spend the next year traveling. I'm planning a move to Hawaii for a couple months at the beginning of the year. Then Europe in the Spring, and then some travel within the US in the next year.
I'm also still in the spot of not knowing what I want to be when I grow up. But life is still stretched out before me, and I know I have time and oppurtunity for those decisions as I go along.
Spritually I am still figuring my own thoughts and experiences out. It just seems like everyone is really in their own world. I am very happy with questions in life. What is it all about and the eternal question of WHY... I dont have an answer. I used to be very uneasy not having an answer. Of course when I was a JW i did have an answer. But I dont believe that answer to be the true answer. What is the true answer? Well I dont really think it's humanly possible for anyone to have the true answer. I guess part of that is that I dont believe in revealed religion or books. But that's just me. I respect anyone who wants to believe differently than that.
Life is good. Yes there are bad parts and tough times. But our human spirits are strong and the bad times quite often make us better people.
That's all for now...
did being in the org really screw up your idea of what dating is.. i gues you would have to had "courted" in the org to answer this question.. the orgs idea of dating is in a sense to get married.. while outside.... marriage isnt even thought of for a looooong while.. my question is because i dont know if a girl is .
being casual or brushing me off : )
Sitting on the fence with no plans of ever leaving? So you are trying to find that perfect JW girl to come and sit on the fence with you? How old are you anyways?
did being in the org really screw up your idea of what dating is.. i gues you would have to had "courted" in the org to answer this question.. the orgs idea of dating is in a sense to get married.. while outside.... marriage isnt even thought of for a looooong while.. my question is because i dont know if a girl is .
being casual or brushing me off : )
NY I cant figure out if you are still a JW or if you are out, or sitting on the fence or what. I've been wanting to ask you that.
Sorry I left when I was 17, didn't have to deal with dating as a JW.
Stacey
i know there are not many jw's who post on this server, but if you are lurking, feel free to answer.
these questions are compliments * http://users.aol.com/beyondjw/dilemmas.htm.
lmao.
Blahblahblahblah. Spout out those answers. So glad I'm no longer a JW......
i am very sad this morning.. i just found out this morning that a man that i grew up with and have known since i was a very young girl commited suicide earlier this week.
i had not seen him in 11 years, since i left the kingdom hall for the last time.
he was about 5 years older than me.
I am very sad this morning.
I just found out this morning that a man that I grew up with and have known since I was a very young girl commited suicide earlier this week. I had not seen him in 11 years, since I left the Kingdom Hall for the last time. He was about 5 years older than me. I knew his family well. We used to have the bookstudy at his mom's house. He had a twin brother. And I always wondered if he was gay. It turns out that he was, and he was disfellowshipped for this reason. I found out that his mother had recently kicked him out of the house for doing drugs. It seems that he didnt have anywhere to go. He overdosed on the side of his mom's house.
This is a very sad day for me. As I said I have not seen him in many years. And I did not know him as an adult. My heart breaks today for him and many others who have lost hope in this life. I dont know what his story was, or the thoughts that were in his head. Maybe he felt like I once did, that he had turned his back on Jehovah and what was life worth living for. I think most of us that have left have had that hopeless feeling before realizing that it really was not the "truth" like we thought it was. Who knows what his struggles were. I just have much sadness today for him and the fact that things were so bad that he chose to end his life.
My thoughts to KP and all of the others that have lost hope....