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  If Christ was Divine, How Could He Have Been Tempted?

  by leavingwt in

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  how did satan tempt a person who has no wrong desires?.

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  startingover

  One thing this thread like all others that involve "christians" is highlighted by Gladiator:

  It must be clear by now that Jesus is what ever you want him to be. He is limited only by our imagination
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  AGuest says..."Yoo-Hoo, deah Sno'birdie..."

  by startingover in

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  looking at that thread, it reminded me of an email i just got, which is correctly attributed to dr. bill cosby.

  'they're standing on the corner and they can't speak english.

  i can't even talk the way these people talk: .

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  startingover

  It really deserves a different title I suppose, I think it's good enough and really should not be connected.
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  AGuest says..."Yoo-Hoo, deah Sno'birdie..."

  by startingover in

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  looking at that thread, it reminded me of an email i just got, which is correctly attributed to dr. bill cosby.

  'they're standing on the corner and they can't speak english.

  i can't even talk the way these people talk: .

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  startingover

  Looking at that thread, it reminded me of an email I just got, which is correctly attributed to Dr. Bill Cosby

  'They're standing on the corner and they can't speak English.
  I can't even talk the way these people talk: Why you ain't,
  Where you is,
  What he drive,
  Where he stay,
  Where he work,
  Who you be...
  And I blamed the kid until I heard the mother talk. And then I heard the father talk. Everybody knows it's important to speak English except these knuckleheads. You can't be a doctor with that kind of crap coming out of your mouth
  In fact you will never get any kind of job making a decent living.
  
  People marched and were hit in the face with rocks to get an Education, and now we've got these knuckleheads walking around.
  
  The lower economic people are not holding up their end in this deal. These people are not parenting. They are buying things for kids.
  
  $500 sneakers for what?
  
  And they won't spend $200 for Hooked on Phonics.
  
  I am talking about these people who cry when their son is standing there in an orange suit. Where were you when he was 2?
  
  Where were you when he was 12?
  
  Where were you when he was 18 and how come you didn't know that he had a pistol? And where is the father? Or who is his father? People putting their clothes on backward:
  Isn't that a sign of something gone wrong? People with their hats on backward, pants down around the crack, isn't that a sign of something?
  
  Isn't it a sign of something when she has her dress all the way up and got all type of needles [piercing] going through her body? What part of Africa did this come from??
  
  We are not Africans. Those people are not Africans; they don't know a thing about Africa .....
  I say this all of the time. It would be like white people saying they are European-American. That is totally stupid.
  I was born here, and so were my parents and grand parents and, very likely my great grandparents. I don't have any connection to Africa, no more than white

  Americans have to Germany, Scotland, England, Ireland, or the Netherlands. The same applies to 99 percent of all the black Americans as regards to Africa . So stop, already! ! ! With names like Shaniqua, Taliqua and Mohammed and all of that crap ......... And all of them are in jail.
  
  Brown or black versus the Board of Education is no longer the white person's problem. We have got to take the neighborhood back. People used to be ashamed. Today a woman has eight children with eight different 'husbands' -- or men or whatever you call them now.
  We have millionaire football players who cannot read.
  We have million-dollar basketball players who can't write two paragraphs. We, as black folks have to do a better job.
  
  Someone working at Wal-Mart with seven kids, you are hurting us. We have to start holding each other to a higher standard.. We cannot blame the white people any longer.' Dr.. William Henry 'Bill' Cosby, Jr., Ed..D.
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  I'm going to the Kindom Hall to please my parents

  by Joshnaz in

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  my parents are visting from florida and i agreed to take them to the kingdom hall for a meeting, but i'm just doing to make them feel comfortable while they are here.

  i told them i'll be sitting in the back with jeans and sneakers playing with my i phone.

  i made shure they didn't get any wrong impressions about me returning to the kingdom hall.

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  I say be respectful, dress appropriately, just sit and listen and don't participate other than standing up when required. I have done it several times. I found that I never really listened in all the years I went, and now when I go and actually listen it's amazing what I hear.
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  I was never DF'ed, I wasn't abused, I never lost a loved one to the ban on blood

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  strange title, huh?.

  the point is that i wasn't "burned" in some incredible way by wts and i don't carry a huge chip on my shoulder from some incredible injustice from wts or the local elders.. i say this because some people have constantly accused me of being really screwed over by my experience because of my comments on others' threads.

  i explained myself there for my reasons, but wanted to repeat what those reasons are here in my own thread.. i explained on some post somewhere that i had felt that i experienced "divine intervention" in my life at one time and that same intervention ended my suicide attempt.

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  startingover

  Great thread OTWO!

  I especially enjoyed Just n from bethel's comments about the jesus pushers. It continues to bother me that they will never ever admit they could be wrong.
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  The Issue is Not that God WANTS Us to Suffer...

  by AGuest in

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  dear ones.

  rather, it is our adversary who says we will do anything... anything... to avoid it.

  a-n-y-t-h-i-n-g. even curse god to his face.

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  I cannot believe what you believers have posted on this thread. And you Snowbird, after what you have posted I have to ask what happened to your swan song? You should have carried it out. Your thinking is dangerous and needs to be suppressed.
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  Do you ENJOY these endless theism/atheism - faith/reason - creation/evolution debates?

  by nicolaou in

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  sure i get frustrated when i have to explain for the bajillionth time just why atheism is not a belief or why it is possible to know some things with 100% certainty but despite all the exasperations i still count it as one of the rewards of freeing my mind and exiting the wt that i can argue so endlessly and freely.. even if some of you do get on my tits sometimes .

  nic'.

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  Absolutely, they are my favorite type of discussion on JWN. Sometime I wonder why. I think it might be because deep down it's hard to accept that my parents and all the people I grew up with believed and that possibly I am wrong in not believing. The more I read these discussion the more I become convinced I am on the right.
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  For Tammy (Tec) - scrutinizing 'revealed' scriptural understanding

  by SweetBabyCheezits in

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  continuing darth's thread i unintentionally hijacked (sorry, again).... .

  tec: um... just in case some of that was directed at me (and if not, i apologize),.

  tammy, my comment wasn't directed specifically at you but, in general, at anyone who hastily buys into claims of 'revealed' scriptural understanding without scrutinizing them as carefully as we would wt doctrine.

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  Tammy,

  It seems to me that one can take christ out of the equation and nothing would change. It appears you have a passion for what is said about him and what he taught, and you read about it in the bible and like what you hear, but really why does he even have to exist for you to have that passion? Just asking...
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  Letter from an anointed reader who DA'd after 33 years

  by Dogpatch in

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  dear randy, early this year i requested disassociation from the org and have been meaning to publish some sort of statement.

  i was a member for over 33 years and partook of the emblems.

  being an older widow it took some deliberation and guts to make the move but am currently very happy with the change.

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  Proof that the Faithful and Discreet Slave is the governing body and nothing more. Excellent!
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  My Lord spoke and told me to post

  by watersprout in

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  my lord spoke to me for the first time yesterday and this morning he told me to post my experience.. i know there are going to be ones who will call me names and thats ok. i will accept whatever you feel you need to say.. here goes.

  i heard a voice calling ''my child'', this happened while at the zoo so i was taken off guard!

  i replied ''who is this?

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  This use of Jaheshua by 3 people on this thread, where did you come by that name. Like I said earlier, I googled it and next to nothing came up. Are we dealing with 3 Jaheshua followers here? How many more are there? There sure doesn't seem to be any more except the ones posting it here.