Posts by startingover

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Why Won't They Carbon Date This?

by Perry in

"for the first time in human history a dinosaur fossil is presenting us with the opportunity to see what a living dinosaur looked like.

in 2001 a field research team unearthed the worlds most complete dinosaur fossil, a brachylophosaurus nicknamed leonardo.

this incredible dinosaur has all of its skin covering its body, missing only a bit on the head and tail.

startingover

Just wanted to say that Perry joined this board not too long after I did, and I always enjoyed his well reasoned posts. But back then it was all about the flaws in the WTS. It appears sometime around 2005 he found Jesus. Things changed. His posts have now become just like the JW apologists. He's right and if you disagree and point out why, he ignores it and goes on to something else. I'm sure he truly believes everything he stands for, not unlike the JW's I know.

I for one enjoyed the old Perry much more.

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I have decided that I am a now a "No-Hova Witness", how about you?

by Wasanelder Once in

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i've gone from being indifferent to becoming an full fledge non believer in anything much.

i guess i'm now a "no-hova" witness.

there's nothing about the wt or the bible for that matter that holds any importance in my life or death.

startingover

Thanks wasa! I am going to start using that name too. Atheist comes on a bit strong for many I've discovered, No-Hova really descirbes the position many of us are in, still connected but totally without belief.

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Attention Lurkers- the Paradise Resort Bus

by stuckinamovement in

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imagine boarding a bus with your family for a long anticipated vacation.

the destination is a place that is promised to be beautiful warm and sunny.

as you are boarding the bus you are given a ticket stub with several paragraph's of fine print.

startingover

Thumbs up!!

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Have your prayers EVER been answered?

by nicolaou in

have you ever prayed for something and actually gotten what you asked for?

specific examples would be nice to hear about.. .

nic'.

startingover

So I guess the bottom line is that you can either have a god answer your prayers or you can be lucky but the results appear to be the same.

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Have your prayers EVER been answered?

by nicolaou in

have you ever prayed for something and actually gotten what you asked for?

specific examples would be nice to hear about.. .

nic'.

startingover

How nice it must be to pray and have it answered, even in exact dollar amounts...imagine that!! Seems to me the prayers said here were for the benefit of the person doing the praying. How about using some of that special talent you have on a larger scale that benefits many others? You obviously have something going on so why not use it to make a real difference in the world?

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Honest questions for believers.....

by Paulapollos in

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over the last couple of years, i have done a lot of reading, and rather than answering my questions, it has made me think even more - particularly about god and the bible.. when i was kicked out of the wtbts, it was because of my personal belief in jesus.

startingover

Rocky-Girl,

Exactly, instead of doing all the mental gymnastics necessary to try to make it fit, why not just admit they just like the idea of it and would probably stick with it even if Jesus himself told them it was a nonsense.

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Honest questions for believers.....

by Paulapollos in

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over the last couple of years, i have done a lot of reading, and rather than answering my questions, it has made me think even more - particularly about god and the bible.. when i was kicked out of the wtbts, it was because of my personal belief in jesus.

startingover

I spent most of my life never even considering any of this debate. But the last ten or so have been consumed with it, and I have come to a simple conclusion.

Believers believe because they want to.

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I spend a few hours in rehab...

by Terry in

he was recruited, sort of, when his church (unity) was queried if they had somebody who could.

god is love.

feel love instead of hate for that person who wronged you.

startingover

Thanks for sharing Terry. I can relate to the feelings stirred up by your experience.

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Why Does God Need A Name Anyway?

by Room 215 in

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if he is the lord god almighty, solely the creator and sustainer of the universe, why the need for a name other than that?

doesn't monotheism require belief that the other, named gods worshipped by the pagans don't exist in a place beyond the imaginations of their worshippers?

why then the need for a name, if it isn't to reinforce a differentiation between him and lesser gods?

startingover

I think you will enjoy this essay: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/211731/1/but-did-you-know-that-God-has-a-name-A-personal-name-Nine-Billion-of-them

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Hi, new to this forum. Figured I'd let everyone know about my story before I got involved.

by JonathanH in

if you just want the juicy details where i leave, i'll make disclaimer where it begins, if you just want to know what happened with the elders and organization after i realized it wasn't true, i'll mark that seperately.

we didn't do jack shit in service, or in the congregation.

maybe this was how jehovah came about?

startingover

I missed this first time around, but glad I found it. I have enjoyed your voice of reason and excellent way of expressing it in other threads. Thanks for sharing your story.