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  God's Name Discussion

  by garyneal in

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  2. beliefs

  several weeks ago, i was attending a meeting with my wife and i brought my king james translation of the bible with me.

  one of the brothers came up to me after the meeting and asked me what translation did i have and i showed it to him.

  he asked if i knew that god's name appeared in that translation and i said, "yes, psalms 83:18 i do believe.

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  Peacedog, that's an excellent point about removing the vowels from their own personal name.
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  Atheists - Do you ever talk to God?

  by AK - Jeff in

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  2. friends

  i scream out sometimes.

  am i angry at a 'being' that i don't think exists?

  or the embedded concept?.

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  After coming to the conclusion such a being does not exist, to be honest I never felt the need to talk to him. I have however had to deal with the reality of death that has confronted me. After losing my parents 4 years ago, tears still come easily and sometimes I wonder if living in the fantasy world I used to live in would have made my situation different. I have no way of knowing at this point. But still, I have never felt the need to speak to god.
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  IF THE BIBLE is so darned great---why don't people JUST read IT?

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  working in a bookstore i notice the thousands and thousands of books "explaining" what the bible really "means.".

  those are what people read.. when people say they read the bible they are really saying they "try".

  but, it is like reading chinese.. so, what they end up doing is reading opinions.. opinions, conjectures, hypothesis, fantasy, imaginative ruminations, fanciful concoctions......other people's ideas presented as documentary fact.. .

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  Oracle, I really relate to your comments.

  It struck me reading this thread that of all the books I have read in my life I can't think of any I felt the need to keep reading over and over again. I read C of C and it changed my life more than anything I have ever read, but I never felt the need to read it over and over again. I grew up with the idea that reading the bible every day was necessary if you wanted to live forever. Seems like lots of people believe variations of that idea besides JW's. Makes no sense to me now.
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  Letter to Phoenix Suns owner about AZ immigration laws

  by startingover in

  1. social
  2. current

  don't know if this is authentic or not, but it really doesn't matter.

  it's still a great analogy.

  the owner of the phoenix suns basketball team, robert sarver, opposes az's new immigration laws.

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  Leavingwt,

  Thanks for the post. How a nation is lost indeed.
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  Letter to Phoenix Suns owner about AZ immigration laws

  by startingover in

  1. social
  2. current

  don't know if this is authentic or not, but it really doesn't matter.

  it's still a great analogy.

  the owner of the phoenix suns basketball team, robert sarver, opposes az's new immigration laws.

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  Don't know if this is authentic or not, but it really doesn't matter. It's still a great analogy

  The owner of the Phoenix Suns basketball team, Robert Sarver, opposes AZ's new immigration laws. Arizona 's Governor, Jan Brewer, released the following statement in response to Sarver's criticism of the new law:
  
  "What if the owners of the Suns discovered that hordes of people were sneaking into games without paying? What if they had a good idea who the gate-crashers are, but the ushers and security personnel were not allowed to ask these folks to produce their ticket stubs, thus non-paying attendees couldn't be ejected. Furthermore, what if Suns' ownership was expected to provide those who sneaked in with complimentary eats and drink? And what if, on those days when a gate-crasher became ill or injured, the Suns had to provide free medical care and shelter?" - Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer
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  Perry - Question about original sin

  by startingover in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for perry and all the others that say humans are sinful creatures in need of redemption: .

  since i'm certain you consider sexual perversion to be a big part of that sinful nature humans supposedly inherited, i have a question regarding the young fella in the video below.

  don't his actions show he is also fallen flesh in need of redemption?

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  This sure got buried quick. I really want to know, the victim of original sin or not?
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  Response to "Do you think the F&DS are directed by Holy Spirit"

  by onefootout in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  thinking about the article a year ago, 6/15/09 watchtower page 23 para 15.. if you are put on the spot, or even in casual conversation if asked if the f&ds, anointed, gov.

  body ect.

  make mistakes, have holy spirit, are spirit directed ect.

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  If I was asked, I would reply that bothers me is that somehow the GB has gone beyond what it says in the bible and seperated themselves from this "class", giving them authority not given the others.
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  Perry - Question about original sin

  by startingover in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for perry and all the others that say humans are sinful creatures in need of redemption: .

  since i'm certain you consider sexual perversion to be a big part of that sinful nature humans supposedly inherited, i have a question regarding the young fella in the video below.

  don't his actions show he is also fallen flesh in need of redemption?

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  For Perry and all the others that say humans are sinful creatures in need of redemption:

  Since I'm certain you consider sexual perversion to be a big part of that sinful nature humans supposedly inherited, I have a question regarding the young fella in the video below. Don't his actions show he is also fallen flesh in need of redemption? I say a better explanation is that humans are as much animals as this young guy.

  http://www.thebuzzmedia.com/monkey-has-his-way-with-a-frog/
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  What a messed up Cult the JW religion is

  by Think About It in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i'm reading coc for the first time.

  a governing body that is suppose to be god's channel on earth and led by jehovah's holy spirit could not even change jw dogma even though the majority of those present voted for change.

  there had to be a 2/3's vote of the total gb membership.

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  Obviously Bane hasn't read C of C, he's speaking from ignorance.
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  Imagine a WT Paradise Earth with over 100 Billion People- Not!

  by moshe in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for years the wt has claimed that only 20 billion people have ever lived on the earth- in 1988 they claimed that there would be 1/3 hectare of every person who ever lived, which they said was enough to grow all the food that was needed.

  a more realistic number by the population reference bureau is over 100 billion.

  life in the wt utopia would resemble living in third world slums with just one bowl of food a day.

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  Bane,

  Is what you descibed any less of a fantasy?