i realize i peddle carl sagan like christians peddle jesus but i think every one of us who has survived the watchtower, regardless of our current beliefs, should be able to appreciate this.
in the path to freedom (chapter from one of his books), sagan was discussing frederick (bailey) douglass's life in the early 19th century and his quest for literal freedom.
see if anything here sounds familiar:.
How true, it is amazing that the WT and other religions still consider the account of adam and eve as literal with all the physical evidence to the contrary. Keeping people ignorant with information control.
Glad you are still around SBC, I only have time for about one hour a week on this site, always click on your posts. good post!
i have been on this site daily, almost from its beginning, since i left the jws in 2001, but i have been more of a reader than a poster, as you can see from my post count.
i know few here know me, although i know many of you through reading your posts.
maybe it is not right to ask for support, when i generally stay quietly in the background of this forum, but i want only to speak a human misery of the deepest kind.
Truman, sorry for your loss. I know your son will be missed by many.
so was your congo affluent & connected enough to have a "bethel speaker"?.
at least one congo in our area had one.
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When I used the word Hypocrite, I was refering to those who were responsible for the policy that I could not collect baseball cards because it was idol worship. I doublt the average bethelite was responsible for that policy. I was speaking of those at the very top, the policy makers, the members of the governing body who happened to be the last bethel speaker that I heard. It is those who seek all of the worship for themselves, not the average bethelite.
so was your congo affluent & connected enough to have a "bethel speaker"?.
at least one congo in our area had one.
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Bethel speakers are like idols to JWs. Always made me sick how they would all line up to get a chance to shake their hand after a talk that I found incredibly boring. They are like rock stars to the average JW. Oh but I couldn't put up a poster of any sports figures in my room growing up because it was idol worship.
They just want ALL the worship for themselves. Hyprocrites!
http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/local/new_york&id=8609235&rss=rss-wabc-article-8609235.
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What a great buisness model.
1) Buy rundown property
2) Renovate it with free labor
3) Sell it a few years later for huge tax free profits.
4) Repeat
so if blood is so precious in gods sight, just why did he create mosquitoes?.
or did they used to drink orange juice in the past?.
and if you feel up to it, here's a load of other blood sucking creatures that are living on you, every day.. .
Little known fact, god cursed the mosquitoes to suck blood for eternity because it was the mosquitoe that put the snake up to deceiving Eve into eating the forbidden fruit. It's true, an angel whispered it into my ear when I asked god for an answer to this quesiton.
Oh...
Hi Bro. Dan!
Taxes
i'm currently at the meeting again... i'm always in the back working the sound cause everyone else can't seem to work it and i'm mostly on my phone reading jwn or writing, or doodling or sometimes i just stare at the audience to see who's falling asleep or daydreaming.
its really the only way i can still sit through these things.. but i remember getting the number of a girl i used to like at one district convention and we would text each other during the program and talk about how boring it was.. i also remember sneaking out of a circuit assembly and going to see a car show that was going on right next door.
that was fun!.
Growing up our DC were outdoors at the state fair grounds, most summers the state fair was going the same time of the DC. Spent alot of time riding rides and hanging out at the fair.
The horse stables were adjacent to the track where the DC was, sitting in that hot sun and fighting horse flys all day sucked big time.
Swearing is not allowed unless the swear word is slightly modified. For example fuck is not allowed, but dipfuck is acceptable if someone is truly acting like a dipfuck.
we were taught that this is detrimental and would only end in doom and gloom...is it true??.
are you happy or know someone who is??
do you regret it?.
I think in most cases it has less to do with religeous affiliation and more to do with the compatablity of the couple. I was married to a JW for 18 years and we were just not very compatable with each other. Neither of us were truly happy. Turns out that being a JW was about the only thing we had in common.
A couple years after divorce, I met a great woman who was brought up as a baptist, I was already an exJW at that point. We were very compatable and have been together for over 10 years. We are both very happy. In hind sight, I wish the first marriage would have ended sooner, but that is not so easy in JW land.
