what is the rarest jb book ever printed?
i just bought a copy of the finished mystery and it can be a bit rare.
but i bet there are others much more rare.
Were there two Finished Mystery books? One that had some context that the US government used to lock up Rutherford for sedition and a second version where that content was removed or replaced?
I have a copy of the 2nd version. I think the 1st version is more rare.
Edit to add: I see this was already discussed in another post.
so at last nights ministry school we had 2...yes that's right two that had parts and gave them with beards.. i found it interesting.
i thought the consensus was that you couldn't have any extra privileges if you wore one.. maybe the school is different?.
anyway, anybody else seen this in the u.s.?.
As a publisher in the MS, after I grew a beard they didn't say anything but I noticed ALL of my assignments were in the third school in the basement.
That was perfectly fine with me so I never challenged.
i dont know where to start so why not at the beginning.
i was seeing this girl and we hit it off great chemistry.
it went from a physical to a deeper relationship.
James87, A two year investment in a relations may seem like a long time to just toss out without some effort to save. Take your two year loss and move on, it is far less of a loss than 40 or more years of what you are facing if you marry this person.
You may love her, but you will grow to hate her religion, resent her for it that will only make your relationship more strained.
Good luck on whatever path you decide to take!
what i noticed during the memorial is the over organised ritual aspect.
for a non jw is must be hard to follow.. for me, i noticed that during the memorial there is no attention for the historical jesus and the historical events.
it's all about the kingdom arrangement with it's central point, the governing body of jw.. do you noticed this also?.
What was the latest fashion statements at this JW spring fashion gala?
been reading this site for awhile now.
i have had a long and often tragic life as a jw.
my story is so long because i'm pretty old :) i feel sad i've been locked in fear and guilt for my entire life.
Welcome! Glad you found your way here. Let the healing begin!
a couple of examples of scriptures hardly ever quoted is 1 tim.
2:12- "i do not permit a woman to teach, or to exercise authority over a man, but to be in silence".
or verse 11- "let a woman learn in silence with full submissiveness.".
20 But the prophet who speaks a word presumptuously in My name which I have not commanded him to speak, or which he speaks in the name of other gods, [a]that prophet shall die.’ 21 [b]You may say in your heart, ‘How will we know the word which the Lord has not spoken?’ 22 When a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the thing does not come about or come true, that is the thing which the Lord has not spoken. The prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him.
after much research and prayer i am returning to being a jehovah's witness i can find nothing that eliminates them from being god's directed people , in the end they will reach the end of there journey despite mistakes and errors just like the israelites entered the promised land , thanks for your input and all the best on your personal journey ☺.
midnight..
Best wishes on your personal journey!
exjw's of a certain age will remember randy's site well.
freeminds was instrumental in waking me up along with ray franz's books.
if net soup and armageddon okies mean nothing to you you're probably under 30.. whatever caused randy to post what he did recently is something i can only guess at but it won't be what i remember him for.. randy, i wish you well and thank you for all you've done over the years .
When I began my exit in 2000, Randy's FREEMINDS site was very valuable in helping me wake up. One of the best ex-JW sites on the net.
Thank you Randy for being one of the early trailblazers on exposing the WT on the internet!
I'm sure there were many apostates the preceded Randy that I have never known. Kudos to them for having true grit to see the WT for what it was and try to alert others mostly by holding up signs outside conventions in the pre-internet era.
so my parents continue to pester me about getting baptized.
the other day my dad told me that i was old enough to make a decision, and was wondering why i wasn't ready (assembly is in a few weeks) so i told him calmly that i have many doubts and if i were to get baptized it has to be 100 percent my idea.
he was a little annoyed by this, and now wants to study the "is there a creator that cares about you" book (which is complete bs) with me.
Good for you BW. I think you have a well thought out plan considering your circumstances. Think of the long game. As hard as it may be for you right now to go along and not create waves, you are well ahead of many others like myself who didn't get out until later in life. I was 40 when I left.
Best wishes. Try to keep the emotions in check.
i don't think jehovah likes paedophiliac behaviour .
has anyone got a reference to an article anywhere that shows watchtower giving council that paedophiliac thoughts , feelings , leanings are wrong ?
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" someone who has an attraction to a child (someone who has paedophiliac tendencies) does not necessarily mean that they have committed any crime."
No, but they are still mentally ill.
"There are plenty of productive members of society who are by definition sociopaths or psychopaths, and may have a tendency to harm others but don't act upon those desires."
No, but they are still assholes.
