Posts by sunflowers30

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How to help a JW using 607, 1914 stuff.

by apocalypse in

the following information was prepared for the benefit of those who are endeavoring to assist a close friend or relative who is a jehovahs witness.

it is intended to aid a person who wishes to, in a non-confrontational manner, approach the vital foundational issue with respect to the primary doctrine of jehovahs witnesses.

it can be done without the recipient of the information even becoming aware of your intentions.

sunflowers30

great post apoclypse!

This was exactly what got my wheels a-turnin and ultimately made me leave. I had to do a lot of digging, but once I realized that they were accepting one date and discarding the other, I knew it was over.

This is something you can prove! All the crazy interpretations they have, you can't PROVE that they are wrong. This is exactly the thing I plan to use if ever I get a chance to work on my extended witness family. No one with a brain can refute this. And you're right, this type of thing will eat at someone until they can't take it anymore.

Thanks for the post!

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What Was The 1st Thing That Made You Question?

by minimus in

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as a youngster raised in the "truth", i had my questions.

but anytime you ask a question that is unanswerable, you are told to just wait on jehovah.

as time passes, i believe that we store up a number of unanswerable questions that forces one to eventually think about everything.

sunflowers30

I was strolling through the library one afternoon about 2 years ago and saw a book laying out,

Chronicles of the Kings, I think it was. As I read through it I noticed it said the

fall of Babylon occured in 586. I went home and asked my Elder husband about that date.

He mumbled something about that's what most history books say. What? I never knew that.

REALLY? I asked. Why?? So I did tons of research, checked out history and archeology books,

etc. I was floored by the results. I cryed, I prayed, everything was falling apart before my eyes.

What does this mean? I WANTED the Watchtower to be right, I really did.

How can they teach this if it's wrong? And they know it's wrong!? So we quit. My husband and I are both out for good.

So to whoever left that book lying on the shelf, thank you.

Sunflowers

39

Devil's appearance in WT literature

by stichione in

i just got the october 15th 2002 issue of the watchtower magazine.

on pages 8 and 9 we see a caption reading " jesus firmly opposed the devil".

jesus is standing there pointing at a slouching, hooded man.

sunflowers30

I remember there was one illustration that depicted Satan in human form and

he had shocking blond hair. I would guess this was about 15-18 years ago.

It actually caused a bit of a stir at our hall. It did look kind of goofy.

Anyone else remember this?

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Accompanied by a fellow JW???

by Lady Lee in

brown said that anyone found guilty of molestation by a church judicial committee is removed from all positions of responsibility and cannot evangelize door-to-door without being accompanied by a fellow jehovah's witness.

i was just reading another thread and started thinking.

and i am not happy at all about where this thinking took me.

sunflowers30

Not much different than being a sister. Hey, IT IS LIKE BEING A SISTER!!

What kind of penalty is that?

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Why JR Brown is a Fool

by JT in

my mamma always told me it is better to thought of a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt.

here we are in the serverroom all is well- win2000 is running fine-- so what are the 6 of us doing --we are looking at the words of the wt spokesman.. .

i asked the guys and gals to read the comment above and what they thought about it.. .

sunflowers30

If he would answer questions like a real man, instead of videotaping himself

reading a lawyer-edited, governing body approved statement, I think he should answer this

question, " DO YOU THINK YOU HAVE A ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY?"

Are you taking every possible case and turning it over to the authorities to sort out?

What are you scared of? Why would that be so hard? What and who are you trying

to protect?

JR BROWN is a fool, a watchtower puppet fool.

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even if the "new system" never comes

by ConnieLynn in

last night i called to do the "check-in" thing on my mom.

she had just been to the assembly and she was all fired up and decided to give me an earful.

apparently, at the assembly all in attendance were told that "this is it" the end is nigh and they should do all they can to prepare for the impending destruction about to befall everyone.

sunflowers30

Gawd, this is my mother too. She listens to me rant and rave about how wrong and mixed up they are and then, with tears streaming down her face she says, "I put up with it now, because I know that in 200 years, none of this will matter"

At least she's got that right. Sigh. How do you answer that logic?

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More David Letterman

by William Penwell in

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hey make sure you catch david letterman again tonight in his monologue referng to jw's he said something like: "apparently, what they do is they grope you, then hand you a pamphlet" according to a friend that just watched it he made 2 comments about the jw's did any one else see it and if so what did he say?.

will.

sunflowers30

The audience laughed and clapped quite a bit on this joke. In fact, he ended

the monologue with this and went straight to his music. HeHeHe, I bet

the Witnesses were squirming on this one. HAHA Get em Letterman!!

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The Fight For What Is Right

by silentlambs in

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the fight for what is right.

as i reviewed the events of last year, it brought me to the simple comment above.

the thirty first of december will mark my one-year anniversary of no longer serving as an elder.

sunflowers30

Dear Mr. Bowen-

I finally found out why you were not (and probably will not) be disfellowshipped.
The locals in your area were upset that no action was taken against you, namely a
disfellowshipping.
So they asked headquarters (bethel) and the reply they got was: "he is entitled to
his opinion"
That's the reason given to the rank and file.

Best wishes and God bless you.

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WT Kult "Exultation" at Destruction

by Tallyman in

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schick watchtower kult bastards!

sick fanatic islamiks!.

look here comes some diaper-headed fanatics (diapers full of doo-doo, so shitheads!

sunflowers30

Hi all-

Just curious what publication that JW illustration is from.

It really turns my stomach.

Thanks

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Mother-In-Law 2

by silentlambs in

well here it is folks the response to my wife's letter.

i guess i have become more evil between letters.

once again any ideas as to how to answer this type of logic?

sunflowers30

Logic doesn't really work on this type of reasoning does it?
I would make two points:

#1 Jehovah God does not need any human to vindicate his name or clear his name. He is perfectly capable of that on his own.
Whatever "reproach" we see, it comes from earthly sinful humans, not God.
He never held back from punishing his "earthly organization" of Israel when
they deserved it. He didn't care what the other nations thought of him.
He even let the "pagan" nations wipe them out occasionally.
It wasn't beneath him to use other nations to fix a problem.
#2 In Jesus brief time on earth, he never held back from criticizing God's
"earthly organization" at that time. He had an anger that was justified.
When he saw evil and misdeeds amoung the Jewish leaders, he denounced it
for what it was. He didn't have a meek "let's wait for God to fix this" attitude.

Just my 2cents.

Regards,
Sunflowers30