Posts by ÁrbolesdeArabia

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JW bumper stickers

by innerpeace in

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so my husband (who was never a jw) saw a christian bumper sticker today and asked me if the witnesses have any.

i said no (not that i know of anyway) so here are a few he came up with.. 'honk if you're a zombie'.

'my other car is noah's ark'.

ÁrbolesdeArabia

"MY OTHER CAR IS IN FIELD SERVICE!"

"WHO ME AN APOSTATE?"

"GOT TIME?"

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Evil Slave

by Marvin Shilmer in

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evil slave.

as it turns out, according to watchtower as of now we need only take a look at 8 men of watchtower, and then ask and answer a question in order to be on the safe side.

my article is titled evil slave and is available at: http://marvinshilmer.blogspot.com/2013/04/evil-slave.html.

ÁrbolesdeArabia

Marvin is a "Class Act" Bible Scholar, I love his works and gift of the pen! Thank you Marvin, you are a gift to JWN!

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New JWStruggle Video - "INDEPENDENCE- Subtle Trap of Satan?"

by RayPublisher in

yes the wt has been warning us about this evil, insidious way of thinking for many years.

it has been described as a form of haughtiness, a form of pride, a subtle form of satanic propaganda.

oh my that sounds pretty scary... .

Good Video Ray, it's so evil to think outside the Organization's padded lines! I don't say this enough, but I would like to make up for lost time. We on JWN do love all the hard work you put in this videos, from the caliber of your videos it's apparent you must be in Audio or TV and programming, this ain't stuff any lop like me could pick up.

JWN is blessed to have you and Simon, you have a deep scholarly skill your not sharing with us Eric, I can't wait for you to let loose and show the Forums how educated and skilled you really are! Love you my brother Eric!

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Iran is so beautiful - take a quick trip ...

by fulltimestudent in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yznhd0jgh2k&feature=share .

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We tried to get authorization to travel to Iran through Long Beach University's group travel with their teacher of phD Persian Studies. My friend was told he needed to pay $25,000 for his birth certificate and citizenship. His father left during it looked like the Shaw was going down good choice he made! You should go and attend school in Iran and get your degree, we got lots of Iranians on waitlist who would trade you in a heart-beat. Jump at the chance to go to college in a cultural rich city and make sure you are wearing your Burka and full body garb.

His mother returned from a six month visit and we looked at all her videos, it's very messed up and those old ways are not dying one bit! I found out I could travel for $10k for three weeks since I have never visited Isreal on my passport.

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Is it GOOD that God KILLS BABIES??? Help needed in debate

by Bloody Hotdogs! in

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[endif]hello all,.

my wife and i are atheists, raised and living as jehovah's witnesses.

ÁrbolesdeArabia

Is it wrong for all the partial birth abortions to be allowed as doctors attempt to save babies five weeks younger than all those babies those killers are stabbing with a ice-pick in the building or office next door?

This doctor back East who was killing babies and the staff could hear the children screaming after they were delivered alive, is it good for Mankind to kill all those Babies?

Is it wrong for mankind and woman to kill babies because they not convenient? Who is mankind to complain to God, when you have countries in Asia who are digging eight month old babies out of mothers and killing them? Trash can's full of babies from abortion mills, baby designer as the implant of eggs into a mother are picked for "twins" and four possible babies are scraped off (killed) because they are not the sex the parents want.

Who is right, those who say life has no meaning and abortion should be allowed up to a day before the child is born and who are we basing our moral compass and direction off? We are all Soil and Green, dirt and blood so why do we complain that God might overlook some killing when our world is killing tens of millions of children every year through abortion?

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any truth 2 Russell funded by Rothchilds

by mind blown in

is any of this true?

historian, historian, david icke states, "...it was the rothschilds who funded the jehovah's witness operation into being, along with other illuminati bankerz (ie, kuhn, loeb, and co.), through "contributionz" by organizationz like the rothschild-controlled b'nai b'rith.

this was proved in a court of law in 1922. one of the key people involved in this was frank goldman who later became president of b'nai b'rith.

ÁrbolesdeArabia

David Ike or Ickey (Messiah, Gray and Reptillian spoter) has said the GB are actually Gray Aliens with Reptile skins with snake tongues. This was revealed to him at a district convention, some higher power opened up the meta-physical dimensional gate and a "White Alien' explained the truth to him. He is the author of the Rothchild theory of Russell too.

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Constructive feedback for AAWA leadership (IMHO)

by besty in

1 - reconsider your existence - there might be a reason why the most effective resources to date have been solo efforts.

2 - recognize that even well-intentioned organizations will firstly seek self-preservation.

3 - be aware that egos and emotional stupidity have torn apart much grander edifices than aawa.

ÁrbolesdeArabia

Marvin I don't think any Jehovah Witness has spent the amount of time researching JW doctrine in the capacity you did. Once upon a time, in the knows of the Kingdom Halls you were considered our "Last Hope" to reconcile all the mad doctrines the Slave was developing.

How ironic, a JW is punished for digging deep into the treasures of the Bible and told to enjoy the stale dried out bread our Organization has tried to pass off as Spiritual Manna for decades. Most everyone who reads your materials never denies your scholarly style, sincerity of heart you pour into each article or topic will all your mental energies. Thank You, for all your hard work Marvin! I am not sure the radical name the AAWA is using will cut it in our political correct social climate, things are different and people are afraid to make a stand.

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They just won't stop

by Anony Mous in

so ~2 years ago i left the jw cult, i had an exit talk with the elders with the reasons why and they couldn't find a reason to df me.

been happy ever since even though i went through a difficult custody and now divorce proceedings.

now all of a sudden they want to df me.

ÁrbolesdeArabia

Slave, in Ray Franz's book ISOCF he speaks of a sister who had not been to meetings in almost a decade. No elder ever checked up on her health or why she stopped attending meetings. She was working as a nurse or aid on the medical field when a rumor spread by some "loving Jehovah's Witnesses (John 13:33-35) he job helping the elderly was something more. Seven years of no contact, no checking up on this once faithful sister and her first contact with the JWs was the BOE wanting to set up a judical committee. Three Kingdom Halls were invovled in the accusations, rumors spread and the whole things was a lie! The elder body will not allow things to fade, they want you to write a letter saying "your outta here!"

"Isn't there a point in the elder book where a person who no longer Is seen as a JW by the general community and who has long since associated with the Congo it is not necessary to go after them with a JC (witchhunt) if wrong doing by that person has been heard? So the question why now after all that time elapsed?"

Slavenomore"

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I have just been disinvited to my brother's wedding - Thanks AAWA!

by Sic Semper Tyrannis in

i am an inactive jw.

i havent been on this forum for a few months and have been lurking in others.

i have met a few people in real life and online, both on this forum and on others.

ÁrbolesdeArabia

Exactly my predicament now! People who love the Organization must find some value, this might keep them from going insane or experiencing a psychotic break. We handed out rubber-bands after Psy 137 class (group psychology) " I CHOOSE TO BE HAPPY" written on the rubber-band, if you got angry or depressed, you were told to look at the rubberband's message and "CHOOSE TO BE HAPPY!". Quite Silly don't you think?

I really think the Watchtower Organization functions like those rubber-bands we handed out to college kids, only the witnesses don't discover how silly the concept is until it's too late! The "Rubberband Experiment" had people saying they were happy until they realized "a rubberband can't solve my personal problems, only I have that power!" The Tower teaches the Slave and Door2Door is the catch-all panacea for anger, depression, racial strife and money, sex, eating disorders, true friendships, better families. I am waiting for my family to turn the Rubberband around or burn it and we don't plan on hanging around to attack a Organization that thrieves off verbal and physical attacks! Thank's Simon and who ever you qouted from!

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There was a great post (in another thread?) where a person (shoot, can't remember name) said that most people do not want to fight an organization, their fight is for their families. It is a personal fight. Once the family member is rescued or recovered, they're out. They're done. They want to walk away from the WTBTS and JW-world and get on with their lives. Which is why people do not flock to join organizations like "Anti-Scientology" or "Anti-Mormom", etc. This makes sense to me and reflects what most people want and how they want to help and to what extent.

I agree with that.

There is a danger that the ones who are left who want to 'fight' are the more embittered (whether justly or not) and focused on hurting the thing they oppose more than helping others escape and this can easily make a group more extreme.

Instead of Anti-Watchtower which is never going to have mass appeal, something like "Pro Religious Choice" (or freedoms) would be better as this would be non-denominational and something that potentially other non-WTS people could get involved in such as Mormons and Scientologist. No one would ever stand up and say "we object to people having freedom!" and it emphasises the fundamental number ONE issue which is that people should be allowed to chose the religion they want to follow without any censure or retaliation for doing so.

Trying to push for 'talks with the GB' is just grandstanding IMO and is just never going to happen. Why would they be any different to the millions of other people who have left?"

SIMON'S POST, PAGE 19

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I have just been disinvited to my brother's wedding - Thanks AAWA!

by Sic Semper Tyrannis in

i am an inactive jw.

i havent been on this forum for a few months and have been lurking in others.

i have met a few people in real life and online, both on this forum and on others.

ÁrbolesdeArabia

"Whas Happen: "

anger. That's what I was trying to put my finger on. They, (THE AAWA), come off as a group of angry people, still fiuming at the WT. It's like they are screaming to be relevent and won't be dismissed. Kinda like an ex who can't accept they aren't a part of your life anymore and continue to make their non welcome presence known. Or at least attempt to do so.

Anger certainly fuels causes in the beginning, but I agree how destructive this emotion can be over time. Been there done that. Although there's some issues I won't drop my anger over, such as the pathetic efforts on the part of the WT to handle the pedo issue, but other things I eventually dropped off the emotions on. These guys sound as angry as the day the got the boot from that pathetic religion.

I recently had to deal with relatives in settling my parents estate. With my business/real estate experiance, along with all my legal contacts, it was no surprise my parents asked me to run their estate both before they left us, and afterwards. My efforts over the last 15 years of their lives made them quite a bit of money. (Which by default, eventually made the family a lot of money). However, someone always feels slighted, and although my initial reaction was to attempt some sort of equalization, it was apprerent they were just pissed off, and no amount of reasoning was going to appease them. To them, every offer or answer I provided was insufficient, malicious, duplicitious, (oh gosh I can just run on with descriptive terms), but in the end, they screwed themselves financially, with petty lawsuits and ridiculous motions. One relative nearly spent every dime of her inheritance, fighting for more."

If I had meet with so-called "apostates" like you guys here, I could have saved thirty years of my life! The apostates I was hoodwinked into talking with, soon lost their cool and blew a gasket, the rage is a barrier against the Watchtower! The Tower tells everyone "how angry, bitter, malicious, vile, nasty, evil" we have to find a way around the rage we might be accidently or inadvertantly sending to our Newbie friends. Nobody like's being around chronic rage or chronic depression, I have enjoyed your postings and Okage and Ohio Cowboy, you all are good folks who leave me happy!

The Late Ray Franz repeatedly warned us all of the effects of anger and rage, pooking fun, malicious gossip and warned us we would become worse than the Vomit the Tower was spewing out! Why was eveyone attacted to Ray Franz and Sam Dunlap, you think it was their lack of desire to become prominent or their gentle and loving spirit?

Have you ever been in a Kingdom Hall where your fellow brothers crave the praise and glory of your fellow brothers and sisters? Their total net-worth was based off their preception of how you preceived them?