I am actually enrolled on that site, although i don't post at all anymore.........to me, they are just trying to find their way after being disillusioned by the WTS.........whatever label they give themselves.......
terri
http://e-jehovahs-witnesses.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=330&pid=3878&mode=threaded&start=0#entry3878.
i may be late, and it may have been posted before, but i just came across this site that seems to have many jws posting and it's an eye opener for sure.
i read many posts, and some posters are just a step away from being here.
I am actually enrolled on that site, although i don't post at all anymore.........to me, they are just trying to find their way after being disillusioned by the WTS.........whatever label they give themselves.......
terri
i have many hopes for this post.
ideally, it will be an eloquent explanation of my actions, more for myself than anyone else.
also, i hope that there are tons of others out there who have, or have had similar feelings and experiences who can contribute insight to the discussion.. as a witness, my mind was relatively closed.
Richie, after I got out of the borg, i spent some time in therapy to get a handle on all of the crap in my mind and heart, and one thing she said to me that has proven true with time is that when we leave a controlling situation, we are like springs or a pendulum suddenly let go without control.........we swing wildly in our views and want to try things out, taking risks, etc..........this is TOTALLY NORMAL behavior...........actually kids do this in their early teens, testing boundaries and limits set by parental authority..........well, in my case, i was in the borg at a young age......14, and was not allowed to spread my wings and test things i really wanted to, so i did it as an adult...........however, with time, my "pendulum" as the therapist said it would, has begun to come back towards true center.........as i experience, read, watch, etc. life, i am learning what i like, what i don't like, what benefits me, and what really doesn't........so, swing away, Richie, as i said before, you have good instinct and street sense, it seems to me, and are quite wise for your years.
terri
i have many hopes for this post.
ideally, it will be an eloquent explanation of my actions, more for myself than anyone else.
also, i hope that there are tons of others out there who have, or have had similar feelings and experiences who can contribute insight to the discussion.. as a witness, my mind was relatively closed.
richie, i think that you have grown amazingly and what you are now doing is extremely healthy. for instance, in my study of shamanism, we are told that a good shaman never wastes their energy. just as a warrior/hunter conserves their energy for the task at hand, so we are taught. in our day to day life, we only have so much to share with other people...........so, we have to make choices on who we perceive is going to benefit the most or who is in greatest need, and still have energy for what we need it for. i have found that some people are energy vampires..........they will suck you dry, if you let them and are NOT interested in bettering their life or others. you are learning how to discern healthy, balanced relationships from unhealthy one sided relationships, and that is very good. you have good instinct, richie...........keep listening to it and you will never go wrong.
terri
u.n. predicts urban population explosionby celia w. dugger,the new york timesposted: 2007-06-30 05:30:02filed under: world(june 30) -- by next year, more than half the worlds population, 3.3 billion people, will for the first time live in towns and cities, and the number is expected to swell to almost five billion by 2030, according to a united nations population fund report released yesterday.. .
photo gallery: most populous metropolitan areasnatacha pisarenko, ap10.
buenos aires, argentina.
excellent points made by both of you~~~i agree.
so three weeks ago my wife and i had an emotional discussion wherein i finally told her that this religion was not the truth.
there was much emotion, a chill has ensued in our relationship.
(i haven't been to a meeting in 4 months now, and have not reported time in two months) i am sure many of you know the drill.. towards the end of our conversation, she asks: but what do i tell the friends when they ask about you?.
I'm glad I tossed the Medical Directive in the shredder a couple of months ago.
lol...........good for you, zack...........that gave ME great satisfaction, also..........to go and tell my Drs. to remove all the jw stuff on blood from my file as i was no longer one.
as i've mentioned, i've stopped going to meetings three months ago, this morning i took my kids to breakfeast and they asked if i was going to meeting.
i told them no becasue i had something to to.
my youngest wanted to know why i have not shaven, really did not respond.
i agree with what choosing life wrote, if you have no personal issues with being there to support your wife, then by all means, go. when i went to see my terminally ill mom a few months ago, i told her that if she felt well enough to go to a meeting, i'd go with her as a support. that would have been the first time i've stepped foot in a kh in over 9 years. i've reached the point in my recovery that it would not affect me. as it was, they had a call line set up and i quietly sat and listened with her in the living room...........i felt nothing, good or bad listening to it........it was just another religious program like i might hear on the radio or tv while flipping........
terri
so three weeks ago my wife and i had an emotional discussion wherein i finally told her that this religion was not the truth.
there was much emotion, a chill has ensued in our relationship.
(i haven't been to a meeting in 4 months now, and have not reported time in two months) i am sure many of you know the drill.. towards the end of our conversation, she asks: but what do i tell the friends when they ask about you?.
hey, zack, welcome to jwd and freedom from mind control! yes, they want us to feel absolutely miserable. they want all their dire predictions to come true, because if we are happier on the outside than on the inside and word gets around that things in our life are actually better, it punches holes in their spiritual authority and places doubt in the good sheep's minds.........my mom used to get asked about me, too, after i left and was df'd and she told them that i was happy and doing very well.........it really boggled their minds.
terri
i've got pandora on my 'puter and it's so cool.
i've got one of my stations named cake and they select songs in that venue and right now cake is playing "the distance".. love it!.
Yesterday morning, me and my honey were listening to Black Crows on the car CD player..........last week we listened to Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young............maybe next week we'll pop in some Zappa.....for some "easy listening".....hehehe.........
u.n. predicts urban population explosionby celia w. dugger,the new york timesposted: 2007-06-30 05:30:02filed under: world(june 30) -- by next year, more than half the worlds population, 3.3 billion people, will for the first time live in towns and cities, and the number is expected to swell to almost five billion by 2030, according to a united nations population fund report released yesterday.. .
photo gallery: most populous metropolitan areasnatacha pisarenko, ap10.
buenos aires, argentina.
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A United Nations study predicts that the bulk of the urban population growth will be in smaller cities and towns, not the 20 megacities that dominate the public imagination.
The change is expected to be particularly swift in Africa and Asia, where between 2000 and 2030 “the accumulated urban growth of these two regions during the whole span of history will be duplicated in a single generation,” says the report, “State of World Population 2007: Unleashing the Potential of Urban Growth.”
This surge in urban populations, fueled more by natural increase, or births, than the migration of people from the countryside, is unstoppable, George Martine, who wrote the report, said in an interview.
Cities are predicted to edge out rural areas in more than sheer numbers of people. Poverty is increasing more rapidly in urban areas, and governments need to plan for where the poor will live rather than leaving them to settle illegally in shanties without sewerage and other services, the United Nations report says.
In Latin America, where urbanization occurred earlier than in other developing regions, many countries and cities ignored or tried unsuccessfully to retard urban growth.
“Now the levels of insecurity and violence are a product of this approach,” said Mr. Martine, a Canadian demographer and sociologist. “People have been left to fend for themselves and have created these enormous slums.”
Rather than just letting slums spring up, governments need to anticipate the expanding ranks of the urban poor and provide them with secure housing, water, sanitation and power, among other services, the report says. With decent housing and basic services, the poor can take advantage of the opportunities offered by city life, it says.
A billion people, about a sixth of the world’s population, already live in slums, 90 percent of them in developing countries. In sub-Saharan Africa, more than 7 in 10 urban dwellers live in a slum, an area lacking services such as water, sanitation or legal rights to housing. The region’s slum population has almost doubled in just 15 years, reaching 200 million in 2005. Its urban population is already as large as North America’s.
In China, the world’s most populous nation, urbanites are expected to outnumber people in rural areas within a decade. China would then have 83 cities with more than 750,000 residents, but only five with a population of more than five million, the report says.
In fact, it predicts that the bulk of the urban population growth will be in smaller cities and towns, not the 20 megacities that dominate the public imagination. The future lies in places like Gabarone, Botswana, where the population is projected to reach 500,000 in 2020, up from 18,000 in 1971, as much as it does in chaotic, sprawling metropolises like Lagos, Nigeria.
Among the megacities with populations of more than 10 million, only Lagos and Dhaka, Bangladesh, are expected to grow at rates exceeding 3 percent over the coming decade. Such supersize cities today contain 9 percent of all urban inhabitants, while cities and towns of fewer than 500,000 account for more than half. “Many of the world’s largest cities — Buenos Aires, Calcutta, Mexico City, São Paulo and Seoul — actually have more people moving out than in, and few are close to the size that doomsayers predicted for them in the 1970s,” the report says.
The report notes that while rates of urban growth have slowed in most regions of the world, the story now lies in the expected growth in the sheer numbers of people through natural increases and migration from rural areas.
The first great wave of urbanization unfurled over two centuries, from 1750 to 1950, in Europe and North America, with urban populations rising from 15 million to 423 million. The second wave is happening now in the developing world. There, the number of people living in urban areas will have grown from 309 million in 1950 to an expected 3.9 billion in 2030. By 2030, developing nations are expected to have 80 percent of the world’s urban population.
If this population growth is helter-skelter, with inadequate services and sprawling slums, it could pollute urban watersheds with untreated sewage and contribute to increases in crime and violence, Mr. Martine said. The result of that approach is apparent in today’s slums.
“The poor settle in the worst living space, on steep hillsides or river banks that will be flooded, where nobody else wants to live and speculators haven’t taken control of the land,” he said. “They have no water and sanitation, and the housing is terrible. And this situation threatens the environmental quality of the city.”
But cities are also engines of economic growth, the report notes more optimistically. “Cities concentrate poverty,” it said, “but they also represent the best hope of escaping it.” Copyright © 2007 The New York Times Company 2007-06-29 21:10:56
without elaborating at length, there has been a lot going on in my life of late and i have sought out some therapies that i have used in the past.
they've helped a lot.
they are more along the lines of *natural* therapies.
yeah well when you start speaking in tongues and referring to yourself as legion you will be sorry