during the assembly they made an announcement about contributions and as always mentioned how expenses outnumbered the contributions so far and we are at a deficit of $6700 or so.
however, they then said that our money on hand in savings for the circuit was $51,000 and that they voted and will be sending $45,000 of it to the society.
who voted?
During the assembly they made an announcement about contributions and as always mentioned how expenses outnumbered the contributions so far and we are at a deficit of $6700 or so. However, they then said that our Money on hand in savings for the circuit was $51,000 and that they voted and will be sending $45,000 of it to the society.
Who voted? And who asked for that money?
Has anyone seen this in their circuits?
don't forget to post your reported assembly and convention attendance and baptisms and whether they are higher or lower than customary (if you know).. here's some detail passed to me of the last circuit assembly held at surrey (uk) assembly hall.. attendance 922 baptisms 3 (half circuit).
there doing this right under my nose but i just found out.
not sure what to do but would like your help on getting me wt information on my headship role and how they shouldn't be doing this with out my permission.
also would like some help on showing my son the ramifications on what happens to someone when they get baptized and how they'll expect him to treat me.
As the head of the house hold you are able to say "as his father you don't feel he is ready and at this time you are not allowing him to be baptized." If they want to speak with you about your decision let them know this is not up for discussion. You have prayed about it and decided what's best for your child.
And that is it, let your son hate you for a bit but I wouldn't tell him anything just yet about why, because he is probably very much brainwashed at this moment and will tell them what you said. If you have the money and/or time, start taking him on father son trips and talk to him about how great it is that we live at such an awesome time when crime is at its lowest, life expectancy is at its highest and how we have access to the best medical care there has ever been. Show him how important it is to plan ahead, that even the organization sees that, just look at what they're building in Warwick. Do whatever you can to get him to be excited about life and see the hypocrisy of the so called Happiest people on earth.
it seems that the more i research, the more i find that it's all just a big scam.
is there any evidence that even the bible isn't just another big religion/government scam?
would we listen to putin or obama if they told us they have verified new holy writings?
Thanks for all the comments and suggestions.
So many possibilities, very likely instead of god making man in his image, man made god in his.
it seems that the more i research, the more i find that it's all just a big scam.
is there any evidence that even the bible isn't just another big religion/government scam?
would we listen to putin or obama if they told us they have verified new holy writings?
It seems that the more I research, the more I find that it's all just a big scam. Is there any evidence that even the bible isn't just another big religion/government scam? Would we listen to Putin or Obama if they told us they have verified new holy writings? Why do we believe a roman government when at the time 95% of the population was illiterate?
Just sayin
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the feeling that you're never good enough.
the feeling that you're wicked and evil.. .
because i'd give anything not to feel this way.
Hi CommitteeChairman,
With me that feeling stuck around for a few years. When I would see the people I loved that were witnesses I would get shy and act as if I had done something wrong. I would at times wonder if I was just a bad person who wasn't able to believe gods truths.
And then slowly but surely it all started to unravel. As the brain washing wore off, I began to see people for who they were and not for just what they believed. More and more each day it was clearer and clearer on how crazy these "dooms day cults" and other religions are, and that we were not that special in how we teach and believe. I stopped using the words like "The Truth" "us" "we" and began to see that so many around the world think they're special, that they right and you're wrong.
Finally I'm free of all the guilt and all the worry, because they're nothing special.
If a man came to you today and said he figured it all out, gave you dates and numbers, measured pyramids to prove it, all we would have to do is google it and he would be finished.
People will follow crazy people, but I am no longer one of them.
Good luck
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ok, so my mom is finally out of the organization!!!
which is awesome!
she has been a witness for over 60 years, but for the last 15 years or so she's been one of those that listens in on the phone and had depression issues and couldn't make it out in service much, you know the type.
Ok, so for a little more background on my mom.
No, she has never been disfellowshipped.
KateWild- You really know your stuff because it is almost exactly that situation with the family. My youngest sister has recently become a witness after spending most of her life not being one, she's extremely zealous and very judgemental. Problem is, while she was studying she would ask me questions on why I no longer go, and it looked at times that she was not really gonna follow through and get baptized. Unfortunately she went ahead and dove in head first. So then, this past summer of WatchTower articles and assembly parts came out on how to treat those that have turned away from Jehovah and she placed the Apostate label on me and went ahead and told anyone and everyone that knew me. She then told my mom she should no longer visit me because of this, and when my mom continued, my sister concluded that my mom had made her decision. My sister proceeded to rally the family and explain how the only way to save my mom would be to cut her off and anyone not cutting her off is siding with satan rather than God. Being that she is newly baptized the family doesn't want to stumble her and her new husband, and so my brothers who are elders made phone calls to all the kids and grand kids and told them how loving it would be to show how faithful they are even in this very sad and hard situation.
And still, neither of us are disfellowshipped, we don't go around trying to get people to leave the organization, we just don't go anymore.
ok, so my mom is finally out of the organization!!!
which is awesome!
she has been a witness for over 60 years, but for the last 15 years or so she's been one of those that listens in on the phone and had depression issues and couldn't make it out in service much, you know the type.
Ok, so my mom is finally out of the Organization!!! Which is awesome! She has been a witness for over 60 years, but for the last 15 years or so she's been one of those that listens in on the phone and had depression issues and couldn't make it out in service much, you know the type. However, we have an entire family of witnesses and that includes all her Grand Children. The entire family has decided to cut her off from seeing any of them or talking to them and my mom is now emotionally broken beyond words.
So my question is,
Do any of you have any suggestions that would help her talk with the family about her seeing the kids?
She has always been a huge part of their lives, and the little kids have text at times saying they miss her and hope she's not an apostate.
Thanks for your help
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obviously, i don't believe that there's a god that backs one race over another.
i do find it interesting, however, that the borg always takes credit for their wins in the supreme court, and that they find it so obvious that they have jehovah's backing in all they do.
so if this reasoning is to float, then wouldn't it clearly mean that jehovah hates russian jehovah's witnesses.
obviously, i don't believe that there's a god that backs one race over another.
i do find it interesting, however, that the borg always takes credit for their wins in the supreme court, and that they find it so obvious that they have jehovah's backing in all they do.
so if this reasoning is to float, then wouldn't it clearly mean that jehovah hates russian jehovah's witnesses.
Obviously, I don't believe that there's a god that backs one race over another. I do find it interesting, however, that the BORG always takes credit for their wins in the Supreme Court, and that they find it so obvious that they have Jehovah's backing in all they do. So if this reasoning is to float, then wouldn't it clearly mean that Jehovah hates Russian Jehovah's Witnesses. I say this because of this article I just read:
by RIA Novosti at 13/01/2014 19:14
A Russian court has declared brochures produced by the Jehovah’s Witnesses to be extremist, the Prosecutor General’s Office said Monday.
The court in the southern city of Kurgan ruled that four pamphlets published by the Christian evangelical sect were discriminatory against people who did not belong to the organization.
The booklets were titled “How to Achieve Happiness in Life,” “What Can People Hope For?” “How to Develop a Close Relationship With God,” and “What You Need to Know About God and His Meaning.”
The prosecutor’s office said that analyses by linguistic experts had concluded that the brochures contained propaganda that promoted the superiority of the Jehovah’s Witnesses and denigrated other faiths as false.
Jehovah’s Witnesses claims more than 7 million followers worldwide, including more than 130,000 in Russia. The religious group frequently faces pressure from Russian authorities for its beliefs and has been banned in a number of regions, as well as in some former Soviet republics.
A Moscow court ordered the dissolution of the local branch of the Jehovah’s Witnesses in 2004 and banned its activities amid allegations that the community was brainwashing children and breaking up families through its teachings.
The European Court of Human Rights ruled that the decision was unlawful in 2010 and ordered Russia to pay 70,000 euro ($95,000) in damages.
Russian courts declared numerous publications by Jehovah’s Witnesses to be extremist in 2009.
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For some reason this put a smile on my face when I read it.
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