HAPPY BIRTHDAY MR FLIPPER!!!
hugs,
Annie
Sunspot
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Mr. Flipper turns 48 on Oct 15th....
by flipper ini can't say enough about my beloved young husband -he's the best.
he would love to hear from y'all on his birthday.
he loves all of you, thinks you're the best things since sliced bread!
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Well, Trev is ill now!
by iamfreenow inat least i don't think so.. he has a flu-like illness and feels pretty awful.
by his own admission, he's been neglecting himself these last few months, and i think with all the stres he's been under that perhaps his immune system is very low.
he looks pretty awful as well, like he's had all the blood drained out of him.. even so, he was going to get on with the things he needs to do today, at least until i intervened.
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I would think that somewhere deep down he is extremely grateful to have such good and trusted friends to be able now, "give in" to long-needed sleep and know that things are in good and capable hands while he is not able to tend to them right at the moment.
I am sorry to hear he is not feeling very well, but under the circumstances, it is not surprising at all. You and Julie and Gareth are certainly bright stars in his dark period right now.
hugs,
Annie
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Did You Willingly Get Baptized or Were You Pressured Into It?
by minimus init was expected of me to get baptized and at 9 i was.
what about you?
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I was 31 years old and the first JW in the family. I was contacted in the d2d work just as the "URGENCY" and the continual hype about "1975- the END" was being uttered at every turn. I was scared that I wouldn't live through Armageddon unless I was baptized ASAP. I worked very hard at this, trying to meet all the WTS criteria before the destruction hit.
I WAS willingly baptized , but then I WAS pressured into it with everything I read from the literature or heard in talks and from my own study conductor.
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pets are so much better than people....I am not well..so sorry
by oompa ini so loved the post of the kitten the other day.
i checked-out this week and drank three bottles of gin, even though i stopped in toto four months ago, my wife is out of town.
please do not post anything about counseling here as i have tried that and am on lots of meds.
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Auldsoul, that sounds good. You really have come a long way. I am not used to reaching out for help, esp. people I dont really know. But is is interesting that you can get to know people at JWD. And we sure have some things in common. I do appreciate all your responses. Feeling this bad is scary, but I seem to also be scared at the thought of inpatient treatment. thanks much...oompa
Please don't be scared to go in for treatment. I have been there (in the 60's) and have never thought of attempting suicide ever again. I am facing yet another surgery shortly (I almost died a year ago June from hemorraghing AFTER the surgery was over. I stopped breathing when blood went into my airway) and I am definitely afraid of heading back to the operating room---but I DO realize that to PRESERVE my life---it is necessary to do what is called for. YOU need to get the supervised help you need to preserve YOUR life.
I can sympathize with your concerns. You can and will be able to see things more clearly and will be shown the skills you need to cope with your particular problems. PLEASE go and GET this help!
hugs,
Annie
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In (partial ) support of Danny Hazard
by stillajwexelder indanny you have been fearless in your exposing jws for the cult they are and the harm they have done and are doing.
keep up the good work.
but please be careful in what you do as this board and recovering xjws need people like you who are fearless in exposing the wt.
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I thought skeeter had a great post on what trespass is and is not. according what he said, that until they are asked to leave, they are still quests. i would think a sign would be enough. that is asking you to leave. The problem is jws for as long as i have been associated with them ignore those signs and feel they are above all that.
To my way of thinking, THIS is the real heart of the matter---that the WTS has pounded that "we are fearless when spreading the WTS message", and teach them that they ARE "above" having to be respectful of anyone OR their wishes as long as THEY get to have THEIR "say".
Logically, those JWs had to know well in advance that they CLEARLY WERE NOT WANTED on the property, and CHOSE to take their chances when knocking on Danny's door. When they continually ignore ALL signs, letters, etc, and they "boldly and fearlessly" come onto private property, UNWELCOME, UNINVITED AND UNWANTED--- they should be well aware of any risks being taken.
Make no mistake: I was also shocked as I watched the video unfold and saw what Danny did; I seriously doubt that I would have done that myself; and I DO understand the outrage it has caused---BUT---I also feel that the WTS/JWs "bold and fearless" mantra should be brought into the right perspective where they are no longer "free" to harass others because they have the "right" in their own minds.
Being that the JW grapevine as is going to spread this with their own spin, perhaps they will begin to realize that it might be wise to NOT bother those that have already stated they do not WANT any "visits", brief or otherwise. Don't these householders with posted signs, have ANY rights? Why should householders HAVE TO take the time to THEN EXPLAIN the signs to JWs AFTER they have already knocked on the door and bothered whoever was inside?
Granted, they were senior citizens, and I do understand why everyone is appalled at that (and as I said I do not condone or applaud this particular action)---but then again---I feel it is high time that the JWs begin to respect and fully appreciate the rights of the householders as well. They have run roughshod over others for long enough.
Maybe the news of THIS spreading through Watchtowerland, will prompt a letter to the BOE to inform JWs that there CHANGES IN PROCEDURES in being so "bold and fearless" will be made in their door-to-door "ministry".....and the rights of householders with signs and "Do Not Call" wishes WILL FINALLY BE HONORED.
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About Trev
by iamfreenow intrev should be home soon, his best mate took him to the pub, while julie drove trev's car back here.
they are due back anytime, they said 7ish, and it's that time now.
he's had a few beers, which i think will do him good, and we are getting him some food ready.
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(((((Marion)))))
Thanks so much for posting and keeping us in the loop. How blesses he is to have such a web of love and support surrounding at this time. Take care of each other~~~
hugs,
Annie
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Hortensia. I send love and my thoughts out to you at this time of loss.
by Sparkplug ini saw this earlier.. i'm so sorry - it must be painful for two people who love each other to have to part this way - one goes through the door alone and the other stays behind alone.
all the more because my wonderful nephew was killed in an auto accident today, a young man with three children.
death is so cruel.. and in the wake of such terrible news today, i did not miss what you had said, but rather blocked it out for a moment.
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Sunspot
I am so very sorry to see that your nephew was killed. What a devastating loss for your family. I wish there was something more I could say or do, especially when you have been so kind and supportive of me since you begin posting here.
hugs,
Annie
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So that's what the other shoe looks like. Update with my parents
by Paralipomenon inheading to the apostafest this weekend, we have made a deal with our friends to look after our kids.
given that they already have 3 children, adding 3 more could be stressful so we thought we would ask my parents if they wanted to take one overnight.
bobbi mentioned that she hadn't really heard much from my mom and suspected something was up.
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Sunspot
Do what I did with my mom.
I told her that shunning is a two way street and if she wanted to get on it she had better be ready to accept the consequences of her behavior.
It's funny how they back down when they realise that they are the ones initiating the BS
This is exactly what I did with my superfine-pioneer-now-married-to-an-elder daughter. She never even "bothered" to tell me or her nonJW Dad that she was getting married to Mr elder, we found out because one of our son's thought it was crummy of her to pretend we didn't exist so as not to stain her "spotless and perfect" JW wedding with our heathen presence. (I sent her a nice gift and an "appropriate WTS-approved card "anyway)
This SAME daughter got the phone call the morning I had my stroke and was in the ICU.....and she never sent a card, called any of my other kids back, etc until three months later she calls and says she "wanted to stop by to see how I was doing". My husband told her she was not welcome here any more. If she thought her bahavior was the proper way to "honor her mother and father", then we wanted no part of her OR her religion.
You have to wonder what makes them tick when they think they can trample all over other's feelings and expect OTHERS should wait with open arms when they "decide" to act human.
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The WTS fosters a heart condition that narrows and restricts its followers to accept as one that teaches arrogance and a superiority over every other religious group on the earth. Rather than teaching unconditional love and tolerance for others, it teaches hostlilty to those that do not agree with the WTS and allows "marking" of those even within the fold when they don't follow the man-made rules, regulations and policies set forth by the Governing Body.
They will be the first to say they have love among themselves that identifies THEM as the "only true religion", but the application of this "love" is allowed only as the WTS permits and within WTS parameters. The "love" they claim to have for nonJWs is that they befriend people ONLY to try and bring them into the WTS; if their efforts fail, then the "love" ceases and the "friendship" comes to a standstill.
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For all you bird lovers
by startingover inhttp://birdloversonly.blogspot.com/2007/09/may-i-have-this-dance.html
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Sunspot
How cute was THAT??? I called hubby in to come and watch this and we are both roaring with laughter!
hugs,
Annie