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  Hello

  by Seraphim23 in

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  not sure if this is the place to say hello and im new but hello and im new here.

  i was a jw years ago but not for many years now.

  i joined here because i was kicked off the last jw related board i was on.

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  Well you will be safe here. We have everyone from atheists to the Lord Jesus Christ himself on this site.
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  How to fade?

  by naazira in

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  i am suppose to become an unbaptized publisher in a few days.

  however ive changed my mind.

  i finished my bible study and progressing in the org.

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  there is a newly baptized sister in the cong who is already doubting sucks for her. she has been on apostate websites

  Do you know what sites or information she has been looking at? Everyone who chooses to leave the Watchtower religion needs to investigate and prove that it is not the truth to themselves. You should encourage her to investigate the religion and critically examine the beliefs. Get her to look at JWfacts and this site.

  If you can, it would be nice to help free her of the mental chains that the WT has put her in, before she wastes her life in what is basically a scam. You would be doing her an incredible service.
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  How to fade?

  by naazira in

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  i am suppose to become an unbaptized publisher in a few days.

  however ive changed my mind.

  i finished my bible study and progressing in the org.

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  Hello and welcome. You are on the right track. Don't become an unbaptized publisher. And do not, for the love of all things sacred, get baptized into this religion.

  The elders and the central authority of this religion have no power or control over you.

  You could, just to mess with them a bit, ask questions like, "Will Jehovah destroy me if I don't dedicate myself to the organization?". "Is there any reasonable objections people have with this religion, or is there no such thing?"

  Get on with your life and put the WT well out of your mind.
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  Why are there 8 Governing Body/FDS members?!

  by DATA-DOG in

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  this is pure speculation.

  just one of those things that make you go, " hmmmmm??!!

  8th member of the gb is appointed just in time for the nu-light?!.

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  Probably 8 testicles too.

  Probably. But we should not be dogmatic about these things.
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  Who has experienced a REAL demonic incident?

  by Monsieur in

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  has anybody here experienced a bonafide, real, true incident in whicy 'demons' actually interacted with you or did something 'supernatural' that left you convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt that satan and his demons exist??.

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  I remember that story from 60 minutes in Australia a few years back. Crazy stuff. I remember the police officers could not control one of the women, she had some high adrenalin strength happening.

  I heard that those girls studied the Watchtower and now they are baptized, special pioneers, serving where the need is great and receiving rich blessings from Jehovah. The WT cured them of demons.
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  WT Society Changes Definitions of Words to Control JW's for Their Agenda

  by flipper in

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  my wife and i were discussing this and thought of a few examples of words that the wt society changes meanings on in order to accomplish their own self serving agenda .

  the term - generation - definition in webster's new world dictionary : " generation - a single stage or degree in the succession of natural descent ( father, son, and grandson are three generations ) .

  the average period ( about thirty years ) between the birth of one generation and that of the next .

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  Everything is loaded in JW speak. Christian can only refer to them, Religion is everyone but them. Armageddon, a location mentioned only once in the bible, is a grand occurence that will take place soon.

  That is another word that is redefined by the WT... soon. Very soon, really close now, just around the corner, shortly, within our lifetime, before the end of the 20th century, the time is at hand, on the horizon.... SOON.

  Edited to add: Independence.

  Excuse the italics, my iPad is demonized.
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  For those faking meeting attendance

  by His Excellency in

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  for those of you who are still faking meeting attendance and field service, do you still greet the dubs after the sessions?.

  because for me, i am increasingly finding it difficult to showcase any fake smile and pretend everything is allright.

  in fact, i'm already getting exhausted with the hypocrisy, i just have to remain in for family reasons.

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  I would only have concerns for helping your wife learn TTATT. If you can help her wake up you would probably find attempting a fade much easier.

  I can imagine how difficult it would be having a wife that still believes. I didn't know at first how my wife would respond and I was stressing about how to approach the subject. I was pretty lucky that she trusted my concerns were genuine and came to the same conclusion as me. It still sucks though, we have young children and our parents are in the org but we want out.

  I know how frustrating and thought consuming the whole situation is. Learning TTATT and then the turmoil that comes afterward can be one of the hardest things someone ever goes through. Take it slow, and look after your own health. Many have been able to help their partners wake up by being patient.
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  Acronyms aplenty, without asking.

  by Holey_Cheeses*King_of_the juice. in

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  Very funny.

  Any questions are answered awkwardly with aggression.

  I appreciate apostates with ability for humor.
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  For those faking meeting attendance

  by His Excellency in

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  for those of you who are still faking meeting attendance and field service, do you still greet the dubs after the sessions?.

  because for me, i am increasingly finding it difficult to showcase any fake smile and pretend everything is allright.

  in fact, i'm already getting exhausted with the hypocrisy, i just have to remain in for family reasons.

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  Yes I agree Quiet One, I could not handle pretending anymore than the meeting on Sunday. Even that probably has detrimental effects to my mental health. Once you are fully awake, the meetings are almost impossible to handle.
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  For those faking meeting attendance

  by His Excellency in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for those of you who are still faking meeting attendance and field service, do you still greet the dubs after the sessions?.

  because for me, i am increasingly finding it difficult to showcase any fake smile and pretend everything is allright.

  in fact, i'm already getting exhausted with the hypocrisy, i just have to remain in for family reasons.

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  It's hard, I can relate to your feelings.

  I usually head for the door straight after the closing prayer. Like DD said, the majority of JWs are good people who are just captives of a concept. I don't have any problem with the bros or sisters, but find it hard to pretend that I like being there.

  I try to arrive just on time and leave straight away. My wife is awake and we are in aggressive fade mode, because we can't do this forever. The family will just have to accept our position whenever it is that we finally stop attending, that is if I don't get DF'd before then.