Posts by Pterist

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Did C.T. Russell believe Jesus was God?

by leaving_quietly in

the finished mystery is available for free on google books.. http://books.google.com/books/about/the_finished_mystery.html?id=ddqsoqv2rbic.

i was reading the preface last night and shook my head over the ridiculousness of this.

how this ever became a religion is beyond me.

Jesus didn't care about chronologies and bible knowledge--why should we?

by humbled in

when i read the gospels, i don't find a bunch of numbers.

i loved that jesus talked in a way that left me wide open to respond to god.

"love god with your whole heart, mind, soul and strength and your neighbor as yourself".

Pterist

Lars ****Christ's physical body at the 2nd coming would be in a sinful body****

This is ridiculous, and heretical. This is not even Christianity....Show a scripture, not your rambling words that go around in circles, show an exact scripture to back up your above statement !!!!

Here is a scripture that shows YOU are so WRONG ...

Hebrews 9

he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him.

Show me your scripture that says ...

he will appear a second time, IN A SINFUL BODY ???

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Jesus didn't care about chronologies and bible knowledge--why should we?

by humbled in

when i read the gospels, i don't find a bunch of numbers.

i loved that jesus talked in a way that left me wide open to respond to god.

"love god with your whole heart, mind, soul and strength and your neighbor as yourself".

Pterist

Lars**** If you sniff your nose up at it now, then Christ will sniff his nose up at you on JUDGMENT DAY*****

Can you back this up with a scripture ?

I can show that Chronology is NOT a CRITERA for judgement !

Revelation 22

14 “Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of life and may go through the gates into the city. 15 Outside are the dogs, those who practice magic arts, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood....

NO CHRONOLOGY mentioned here just Gody living, so back up your statement with a scripture !

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Should The Governing Body Seek Psychiatric Help For Narcissistic Personality Disorder?

by frankiespeakin in

http://psychcentral.com/disorders/sx36t.htm.

narcissistic patients try to sustain an image of perfection and personal invincibility for themselves and attempt to project that impression to others as well.

physical illness may shatter this illusion, and a patient may lose the feeling of safety inherent in a cohesive sense of self.

Pterist

As brother Ray Franz said, they are captives of a concept. They sit in their Ivory tower like the church in revelation 'I sit as queen; I am not a widow,

and I will never mourn.' arrogant, self-indulgent pride. She lavishes luxuries upon herself and takes pride in the fact that she is a queen; she does not need help from anyone.

Shalom

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Jesus didn't care about chronologies and bible knowledge--why should we?

by humbled in

when i read the gospels, i don't find a bunch of numbers.

i loved that jesus talked in a way that left me wide open to respond to god.

"love god with your whole heart, mind, soul and strength and your neighbor as yourself".

Pterist

Lars *** CHRONOLOGY is part of the "extra oil" the wise virgins bring along with them and which enables them to have their lamps burning in time to get into the wedding feast when Christ arrives. The "foolish virgins" are like those who look down on chronology and discourage people from focusing on it. The chronology was not placed into the Bible to be ignored, but to help recognize the Christ when he arrives*****

That is your opinion consistant with the WBTS FALSE understanding, the oil is Godly living, a spirit filled life that LITERALLY can NOT be shared. Do some research on what BEING AWAKE means SPIRITUALLY !

Shalom

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Jesus didn't care about chronologies and bible knowledge--why should we?

by humbled in

when i read the gospels, i don't find a bunch of numbers.

i loved that jesus talked in a way that left me wide open to respond to god.

"love god with your whole heart, mind, soul and strength and your neighbor as yourself".

Pterist

Humbled **** Why do you think so many ex-dubs stay hung up on the numbers thing?***

To prove the org is wrong. It is their only foundation to claim their exclusitivity as "god's only channel" (1919) , prove their dates are flawed, they are at best just another denomination, and at worse a false prophet !

Shalom

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NLP, Subliminal Messages and the WT Writing Department

by 00DAD in

a few years ago i became interested in the subject of neuro-linguistic programming (nlp).

while the core concepts of nlp have been largely discredited as new-age pseudo-science, there is no doubt that there is at least some validity to the idea.

words and images remain the key way we communicate.

Pterist

Straight and Crooked Thinking is a good book to see behind the "words"

Free copy.....sorry cant make the link clickable on my iPad.

http://neglectedbooks.com/Straight_and_Crooked_Thinking.pdf

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Will cong members support charity challenge?

by newdawnfades in

jw
friends

i am going to participate in a physical challenge for charity with some non jw workmates which will require many hours spent in training.

i am intending to publicize this in the congregation.

do you think i will receive much in the way of donations for the charity?.

Pterist

Years ago, some local brothers, elders, (Dublin, Ireland) now all exJWs had a get together in a hotel/bar room, were clothing, good suits, kids clothing, food items, etc, were made available for the poorer amongst the local congregations without fanfare and embarrassment of those who received. It was challenged by the "company men" elders ALL non locals ( from other countries, mostly UK bringing their false gospel to the pagan Irish) who did not participate. You will be marked a "worldly man" !

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Gentile Times ? When ?

by *lost* in

if christians are the gentiles .... ............many nations of man.

god's earthly children shepherded by gods heavenly kingdom.

through jesus the son via the bible inspired to men by the power of holy spirit, to become workers/slaves of god on earth to do the sowing/planting, growing on the crop ready for the master to harvest / see the produce of the great work effort ?

Pterist

**** No, it didnt' fail, Jehovah just paused it for 7 times or 2520 years and then Jesus was installed as king, not in old Jerusalem which was rejected, but in new Jerusalem which is heavenly. ****

7 times 2520 is pure speculation and conjecture.... Daniel's world powers ended with the Roman empire, it was then that Satan was defeated, sin and death were conquered in the person of the incarnate WORD of Yahweh. 1 John the eternal life in flesh, 1 John 5:9-13 available now.

Colossians 1:13.... The early church were already transferred into that kingdom.

Matthew 28:18 ....ALL authority has been given Jesus already in Heaven and Earth.

We are now awaiting the New Heavens and New Earth for their completion. 2 Peter 3:

10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything done in it will be laid bare. [a]

11 Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives 12 as you look forward to the day of God and speed its coming. [b] That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat. 13 But in keeping with his promise we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth, where righteousness dwells.

14 So then, dear friends, since you are looking forward to this, make every effort to be found spotless, blameless and at peace with him. 15 Bear in mind that our Lord’s patiencemeans salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. 16 He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.

17 Therefore, dear friends, since you have been forewarned, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of the lawless and fall from your secure position. 18 But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and forever! Amen.

No one knows the day or hour , 2520 ...607-1914 is false prophesy that Jesus warned us about ........Matthew 24:26 ... Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. 27 For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man?

Inner room = secret, invisible to most !!!!

Shalom

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The perplexing conundrum 607 b.c.e condensed down to ONE SIMPLE FACT

by Brother of the Hawk in

i was encouraged to post this thought, so here it is.. i recently finished reading "the gentile times reconsidered" by bro.

carl olof jonsson, ( third edition).

phew!!

Pterist

Lars *** Israel = 390 years; Judah = 40 ****

Hi Lars, Ezekiel was NOT referring to land paying off sabbaths, but rather, the penalty for idolatry Ezekiel 4:4-6, for the 10 northern tribes and the 2 southern tribes. Those dates are a different issue, and have many interpretations.

Lars, most of us on JWN are here to help those who are caught in the Watchtower cult and we hope some will be convinced when we show how erroneous it is to set dates on Christ's return or the end of the gentile times when ALL dating is ultimately based on secular information. You however, are not here with this motivation. You are here to prove that you are the second coming and puts you in the same self appointed seat as the GB. Regardless of what dates are correct with repect to the land paying off its sabbaths, the duration of the exile, and the dating of the destruction of Jerusalem it is not needed or SHOULD NOT be used to set dates for Christ's return.