Posts by Pterist

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Real reason for new arrangement

by TweetieBird in

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i apologize if this has already been covered, maybe someone can post the link.. what is the real reason for the society forgiving all loans for kingdom halls and just giving the money for new ones?.

Pterist

**** What is the real reason for the society forgiving all loans****

Will the WBTS really forgive the loans ? Or will they have their accountants write them off as tax deductions (unpayed loans) while they expect the exact same amount to be paid as a "free will donation"

Ask yourself, if the loans are really forgiven will the WBTS sign over the deed of the land and KH to the locals ?! NOT !

The WBTS are worse than Wall Street bankers they own every KH, and can sell and buy without any opposition from the R and F. The WBTS are wiser than the Roman Empire in their capture of land while abusing the tenants to protect their financial interests.

PT

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CONGREGATION FLEECING RESULTS?

by The Searcher in

how much did your congregation and its bank account get taken for?

share your horror story!.

Pterist

Let me get this new "loving arrangement" straight :

1. The local KHs get to keep 3 months running costs of their own money, the surplus goes to HQ !?

2. The interest free loans from HQ are cancelled in lieu of recieving the SAME amount as a free will donation every month. !?

So will HQ also claim a tax right off, for what they may report as default on their loans, committed by the elders of the local KHs and also place leans on the KHs For the unpaided loans ? ?

Sounds like how the corrupt banks handled the toxic mortgages recently, receiving bail outs and also selling the properties as forthclosures !

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My apologies to everyone.

by DATA-DOG in

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i just wanted to openly apologize to anyone that i have ever offended on this website.

i have been thinking about this lately.

we all seem to go through the same various stages of learning ttatt, anger, sorrow, frustration, bible champion, agnostic, atheist, ect.

Pterist

Hi DD

One visit to a gay bar and now you are as mushy as Elton John ...NOT ! ;)

I come here just to read your totally honest and humorous posts !

Thanks for your contribution on JW - Topixs Recently also !

PT :)

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The Bible agrees with the Big bang theory, so does the Watchtower

by defender of truth in

http://jwtalk.net/forums/topic/14359-satan-improves-big-bang/.

Pterist

Defender of truth says *** said this shows the limitations of human science because they are only calculating from a materialistic viewpoint, without taking into account Jehovah's power and purpose. Maybe he has established a mechanism to invert that process. Maybe he has another solution ready. Or maybe we got everything wrong. ****

or maybe the WBTS are just wrong and the Bible is correct at Hebrews 1 above, in my comment and will just wear out. The universe was "good for a purpose" not made for comfort but a boot camp. Mortality must put on immortality, pain, suffering and death must end. the WBTS's asexual mortal quasi-eternal creation is flawed, they think small, they need to see a completely different enviornment that meets the promises in Christ and revelation, there will be no sun, moon or sea, a New Creation has already been established in Christ at his resurrection, as you keep looking at the things that will fade away.

2 cor 4:18

So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen, since what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal.

Shalom :)

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The Bible agrees with the Big bang theory, so does the Watchtower

by defender of truth in

http://jwtalk.net/forums/topic/14359-satan-improves-big-bang/.

Pterist

If the WBTS agrees with the "Big Bang" they obviously have not thought it through. The final state of such an entropic universe is the "Big Crunch" or ICE !

What will happen to the asexual mortal quasi "eternal" "great crowd", and the continuing cycle of dying animals and plant life, that depends on such an enviornment when it comes to Its end ?

Hebrews 1:

and the heavens are the work of your hands.
11 They will perish, but you remain;
they will all wear out like a garment.
12 You will roll them up like a robe;

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Apostate NT Canon

by Pterist in

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as mentioned in july 15th 2013 watchtower "the apostasy started in the first century and flourished by the fourth century" or words to that effect.. as i was reading ff bruce's "the bible canon" ($14 kindle ver.

on amazon) i was very surprised to read that there are no original nt documents from the first century, just copies of copies of copies of many documents from that period.

apparently the 27 book nt canon was not set until about the fourth century by trinitarian church fathers.

Pterist

Phizzy says ****the weird fact that according to their own version of history Jehovah's Witnesses use an Apostate Bible !****

LMAO ...yup! go figure ,

Some rebuttals I'm getting from JWs on another forum, ( besides the Ad Hominems attacks LOL ,) is that the July Watchtower 15th 2013, did NOT say ALL these Christians were apostate. So once again, we are witnessing the JW apologists having to defend the writers at bethel, approved by the big 7 ,God's only channel !

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Apostate NT Canon

by Pterist in

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friends

as mentioned in july 15th 2013 watchtower "the apostasy started in the first century and flourished by the fourth century" or words to that effect.. as i was reading ff bruce's "the bible canon" ($14 kindle ver.

on amazon) i was very surprised to read that there are no original nt documents from the first century, just copies of copies of copies of many documents from that period.

apparently the 27 book nt canon was not set until about the fourth century by trinitarian church fathers.

Pterist

Thanks to all for the feed back.

Eden says **Therefore, how much more of the gospels and the Pauline letters, among other writings, have been corrupted, or written deceptively to suit a certain agenda? Until original manuscripts are found - if ever - we will never be entirely sure.*****

i agree, all the authors of the 4 gospels have an ideology and/bias, and use writing styles of their day called "instruments" like how Homer was written.

However, the WBTS have adopted and adapted these very same 27 books, same order, and same assumed authors (when there was not one). So they are shooting themselves in the foot don't you think ?

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fastjehu says ***watched this video from Professor Bart Dr. Ehrmann on youtube***

yes, as part of a study I'm doing on Bible Canon, it was suggested to watch these videos.Very interesting. One rebuttal that comes to mind is "omission" is not necessarily "contradiction" in the synoptic gospels, however, there are some :)

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Band on the run...interesting ...thank you

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laika say ***And those same apostates removed Jehovah's name from the NT, but didn't change any of the other parts of the bible. Makes sense.****

So why accept the 27 Books if they are from apostates ? That's the issue ! You are told not to read apostate literature right ? they might be lying :)

Thanks all ;)

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Apostate NT Canon

by Pterist in

jw
friends

as mentioned in july 15th 2013 watchtower "the apostasy started in the first century and flourished by the fourth century" or words to that effect.. as i was reading ff bruce's "the bible canon" ($14 kindle ver.

on amazon) i was very surprised to read that there are no original nt documents from the first century, just copies of copies of copies of many documents from that period.

apparently the 27 book nt canon was not set until about the fourth century by trinitarian church fathers.

Pterist

As mentioned in July 15th 2013 Watchtower "the apostasy started in the first century and FLOURISHED by the fourth century" or words to that effect.

As I was reading FF Bruce's "the bible canon" ($14 kindle ver. on Amazon) I was very surprised to read that there are no original NT documents from the first century, just copies of copies of copies of many documents from that period. Apparently the 27 book NT Canon was not set until about the fourth century by trinitarian church fathers. Which begs the question, why does the WBTS use this same 27 book NT Canon that was set by Christians that they slander as apostates #%^

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What do you think attracts new ones to the JW organization now?

by cultBgone in

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this is an offshoot from the jws then and now thread...it made me wonder what exactly people find attractive about the cult today?

why are they joining?

any thoughts?.

Pterist

The sexless paradise is obviously a big motivator :D

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It is that time of year again... I AM INVITING YOU ALL TO THE 2014 MEMORIAL OF JESUS DEATH

by suavojr in

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yes, it time to gather and 'keep doing this in remembrance of me.

1 cor.

11:24 .. come all to our best memorial ever!

Pterist

*** Come all to our best MEMORIAL EVER! 100 years of Jesus kingdom****

As I said to the JWs who invited me last year at my door, it's like being invited to a party, where you can't eat or drink anything.... No thanks I'll celebrate it at home.