This video made me sad, so many decent people been used or should I say abUSED.
Shalom
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Greetings!
by Malsonilla inhello, i am back after a long break from all things jw and xjw, and publicly, i will offer my apologies to the owner of this board for being so harsh with him/her, and if he allows me to remain on this board, i am thankful.. i am the apostate formerly known as publishingcult.
i am currently in the richmond, va area if anyone would care to meetup for coffee or whatever.
i will be in the area for at least a couple days.
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Ransom paid. But still you gotta suffer!
by punkofnice inwith my recent rise to atheistic agnosticism(?
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if the death of jesus paid the ultimate price.....then why didn't it all end there and then and everyone got to heaven or walk into paradise with a panda?.
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**** You are pretty much stuffed then, if you happen to be born in a non-Chritian part of the world.******
Revelation 21 ......Refers to 2 resurrections.....the first resurrection are those who find "eternal life in this life " ....Christians
The second resurrection are those who are judged worthy for life based on their life course.
Thats MHO,
Shalom
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Hi guess i may have to introduce myself
by rickisteel inhi im from the uk im 42 years old , i was brought up as a witness from birth to 12 years of age i left the meetings with my parents ,.
i had a wild youth was a bit of a rebel involving alcohol ,drugs , heavy metal and motorcycles , i was thrown out of home at 17 my sister was 14. and was discarded as my parents remarried and neither of there new partners wanted us (baggage) , anyway by the time i was married and 21. somebody spiked my pizza with lsd (cant remember the flavour ) and for the next 3 days i thought the world was ending , i called my dad and rambled some stuff to him ( cant remember exactly but the world was ending in my head) a little while later i got a witness call briefly , i found out where he lived and went and asked him for a bible , he suggested i have a bible study me and the wife took the offer and so it began again , i was baptised in 93 and went from strength to strength in the truth , aux pioneering , volunteered for everything , talks , cleaning , meeting parts etc was soon appointed and moved on giving public talks , assembly parts , shepparding calls etc , then in 1997 my wife fell down a kerb and damaged her cruciate ligaments several operations later and disabled ( by the way the brothers /sisters in the cong were great at this point ) my wife began to act odd 1n 1999 she tried to take her own life and over the next several years took 26 overdoses and spent much of her life in phychiatrict hospital in 2001 she was bi polar disorder type rapid cycling (not the common oh i feel a bit low type bi polar but the full blown rollercoaster ride bi polar) .
the thing that struck me was i began to feel like a leper and despite a couple of close friends nobody in the cong or on the circuit( long time friends) seemed to care , i brouht up the kids on my own visiting my wife in hospital and caring for her at home , i felt so alone , when i used to take the kids to the meeting / assembly on my own i just got tutts and sad headshakes "she not come" ?
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Welcome, any flashbacks recently ? LOL
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Ransom paid. But still you gotta suffer!
by punkofnice inwith my recent rise to atheistic agnosticism(?
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if the death of jesus paid the ultimate price.....then why didn't it all end there and then and everyone got to heaven or walk into paradise with a panda?.
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No Christ......suffering world .....death
Christ...........suffering world......hope of glory, freedom from decay and corruption.
Shalom
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Did Jesus ever claim he had to die for our sins?
by Cagefighter inso for those that have been keeping up: i have recently become fascinated with the lost gospels as well as the history of the four cannon gospels (matthew, mark, luke, and john) and as some may say the "historical jesus".. i am fascinated by the variations in who jesus was and what he did according to different traditions and texts.
one thing that provoked me the other day is that the coptics/gnostics do not believe jesus "died for our sins".
which explains why an i have never been accosted infront of my favorite drinking hole my a glassy eyed 20 year old with a pamphlet in their hand asking if i am "saved".. so this got me thinking..... i don't recall jesus ever claiming to have to die for our sins in matthew, mark, luke or john either?
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Jesus brough little or no attention to himself in the eyes of the public. However, He did reveal himself to those that were chosen, the little flock of Israel.
He depended on the witness of his Father and the Holy Spirit to lead people to him. In some ways it's like a "closed shop" we can't know Christ unless the Father draws us to him, We can't know the Father unless the Son reveals him. The emphasis is on whats " revealed " to us or more appropriately IN US.
The Apostle John in his first letter mentions the water, blood and Spirit as 3 witnesses. Which may suggest at his baptism, there was a witness as the Lamb of God. His disciples witness his death, his shed blood and his resurrection....these are eye witnesses of the past, not to us now.....however, the Spirit a third withness, is a witness for ALL time until the end, as mentioned in 1 John 5:6-13 and clearly it's the spirit's leading that reveals the OT fulfillment in Christ and in us.
Shlom
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Circuit Assembly Highlights. Day 1
by DATA-DOG inwell things were actually pretty boring.
i mean really boring.
that's the price of fading i guess.
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Thanks Data-Dog
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The three definitions of apostasy
by cedars ini've just uploaded a new article to my website answering the question: "is jwsurvey.org an apostate website?".
here is the link:.
http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/is-jwsurvey-org-an-apostate-website.
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Thanks CedarS your articles are always uplifting and enlightening.
And He said to me, “It is done! [c] I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. I will give of the fountain of the water of life freely to him who thirsts. 7 He who overcomes shall inherit all things, [d] and I will be his God and he shall be My son. 8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, [e] abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death. revelation. 21 ...
Based on Revelation 21 above, it seems that there is a source of Life available for all. This Life enables us to over come Satan, sin and death as mentioned in 1john 5:9-13.
There is NOT one doctrine mentioned above that would hinder us from this life. What is condemned is a willful sinful way of life.
An apostate in MHO would be those who have tasted this life from Christ and would know By experience the enabling power from God, to overcome Satan, sin and death, but have willfully rejected this new life to be more than conquerors.
Shalom
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more abuse in today's watchtower study
by solomon intoday's study picks on the most vulnerable among us.
the mentally ill. .
the watchtower apparently hasn't learned that depression and mental illness are that a medical condition.
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Of course medical attention is needed in many cases.
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more abuse in today's watchtower study
by solomon intoday's study picks on the most vulnerable among us.
the mentally ill. .
the watchtower apparently hasn't learned that depression and mental illness are that a medical condition.
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The peace that surpasses all understanding in Christ, .....I guess the GB forgot that.....anything to direct people AWAY from the blessings Christ has purchased for us.....
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