Posts by Apognophos

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Governing Body Member Gerrit Loesch Must Eventually Take The Witness Stand In Child Molestation Lawsuits

by frankiespeakin in

with many more cases in the offing the zalkin lawfirm will press the issue again and again and force gerrit loesch to testify.

what say you?.

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Governing Body Member Gerrit Loesch Must Eventually Take The Witness Stand In Child Molestation Lawsuits

by frankiespeakin in

with many more cases in the offing the zalkin lawfirm will press the issue again and again and force gerrit loesch to testify.

what say you?.

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Apognophos

I see, my mistake. On another thread you claimed that Morris used to go by another name, and it sounded to me like you were suggesting the same of Loesch. I was reading too quickly.

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Governing Body Member Gerrit Loesch Must Eventually Take The Witness Stand In Child Molestation Lawsuits

by frankiespeakin in

with many more cases in the offing the zalkin lawfirm will press the issue again and again and force gerrit loesch to testify.

what say you?.

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OrphanCrow, I take exception to this thing you're doing where you act as if the GB members are some sort of fake identities. Did you live near the U.S. headquarters as a Witness? I'm guessing not. There are plenty of people who remember the GB members when they were DOs, COs, and elders, back to their original congregations. There is not some deep DaVincian mystery here waiting to be solved. They are born-ins and converts who rose up through the ranks to where they are now.

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Girls names

by FeelingFree in

jw
friends

ok so i know its not really anything to do with jwness but we are struggling with baby names and really can't think of one we both like.

its getting a bit desperate as i'm due in about 8 weeks .. i'm getting bored of looking at the same old names on the baby names websites so any suggestions would be much appreciated (girls please).. **cash prize for the one we choose!

** ....... no not really lol.. .

Apognophos

I haven't, FeelingFree, no. I'm just a nerd who Googles himself once in a while and is glad that the only results for his name are for other people :-) Might make it easier to fade when I leave the religion, for instance.

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Favorite Episode of Star Trek

by Coded Logic in

calling all tos, tng, ds9, voyager, or enterprise fans, what's your favorite serries and why?

and what's your favorite episode and why?.

(too many choices on netflix for me to decide which to watch right now).

Apognophos

I liked the Voyager episode where the crew has to confront Fear in a personified form (in the holodeck).

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Girls names

by FeelingFree in

jw
friends

ok so i know its not really anything to do with jwness but we are struggling with baby names and really can't think of one we both like.

its getting a bit desperate as i'm due in about 8 weeks .. i'm getting bored of looking at the same old names on the baby names websites so any suggestions would be much appreciated (girls please).. **cash prize for the one we choose!

** ....... no not really lol.. .

Apognophos

Although I'm not crazy about some of the suggestions made so far, I'm glad I haven't seen anyone suggest Tyler or Hunter yet, because I cannot think of more awful names for a girl.

An addendum to my last post: don't give your child a name that's a Googlewhack. If they are the only person in the world with that combination of first and last name, then they will be easy for people to Google, and I would suggest that's more of a negative than a positive. In a world where a ton of web sites collect and publicly list names, addresses and phone numbers, it's nice to at least have a name that is shared by a number of other people, allowing one to cyber-hide amongst the other results returned for one's name.

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Girls names

by FeelingFree in

jw
friends

ok so i know its not really anything to do with jwness but we are struggling with baby names and really can't think of one we both like.

its getting a bit desperate as i'm due in about 8 weeks .. i'm getting bored of looking at the same old names on the baby names websites so any suggestions would be much appreciated (girls please).. **cash prize for the one we choose!

** ....... no not really lol.. .

Apognophos

Just choose something normal, for heaven's sake. Don't even give your child a weird middle name.

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900 Top Scientists Sign Statement Skeptical of Macro-Evolution

by Perry in

we are skeptical of claims for the ability of random mutation and natural .

selection to account for the complexity of life.

careful examination of the .

Apognophos

Just popping in here to say that perhaps Perry was thinking of me, not cofty. I said a while back that the human genome is not composed of code, but rather of building instructions. My point was that the actual process of cell division is like a computer program (code) which acts upon data (the DNA). This program for cell replication is much simpler and therefore easier to imagine the evolution of. In reality, the situation is more complicated than that, and the code/data distinction is probably a dubious analogy to use. But 'twas I who said it, not cofty.

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preface question:

by mohrb in

order of operations is important, so, i'll ask a question before i make assumptions and start "fixing things.".

obviously, the site heavily encourages the viewpoint of former j-dubs and others who have disagreements with the political posturing of the wbts.

i get that, and see your points.

Apognophos

mohrb, I appreciate what you're saying, but as cofty said, you are exaggerating a fair bit in representing the tone of this forum. Only a few posters here are promoting tin-foil hat theories about the Society. It is true that many here use strong language regarding the Society, and I don't personally approve of that, but we've had the debate numerous times about the image we give to believing JWs, and the problem is that the forum is primarily here for people to express themselves freely, not to proselytize to JWs (but yes, there are a few "true believers" here as well).

Despite the vitriol that some express for the org., the fact is that there are still lots of level-headed posters writing intelligently on various thought-provoking subjects. It's a very JW-esque approach to take stock of the occasionally chaotic forum and then suggest that we need to organize and get our ducks in a row. Can't happen, won't happen. Former JWs are a diverse group of people. Many of us simply do not agree with each other on many matters. That's okay. Vive la difference. Also, there will never be a widely-organized movement among active, doubting JWs. The climate within the org. is too fearful for people to raise their voices in dissent.

Finally I'd just like to say that many of us were once mentally where you are, and as we continued to learn more information about the org. and the Bible and the world at large... well, we got to where we are now! Your thoughts are very much still being corraled by the Society's information control. If you take the time to read the more scholarly topics around here, you will start to consider the more fundamental questions that underlie the assumptions you are making now. Then you'll understand why we have no interest in reforming the Society.

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comment from an uber dub regarding the $13.5 sex abuse case will just blow you away.

by joe134cd in

i was talking to an uber dub friend last night who lives in the san diego area.

he knew nothing of the $13.5 million dollar law suit.

when i tried to tell him that this is a systemic problem, and that this could perhaps be the tip of the ice burgh.

Apognophos

" he had better and more productive thing to worry about"

Translation: He doesn't want to think about this. Translation of the translation: It bothers him that it might be true.