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  What Are changes reflected in New Bible teach book?

  by Joshua.r in

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  except picture changes, what are the content changed in new bible teach book?

  which pages?.

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  Apognophos

  They changed single 'p's to double 'p's, e.g. "worshipers" to "worshippers". I wholeheartedly approve of this change but I'm surprised because the Society always used to use double 'p's, so I don't know why it was ever different here.
  

  They changed "evildoer" to "criminal" on page 36, probably as a reflection of the change in the NWT's wording; this is not a word in a scriptural quotation but in the book's own text.

  Page citations were changed from the style "197-9" to "197-199", also a sensible change.

  The statement on page 51, "He experienced harsh whipping, cruel impalement, and an agonizing death on a torture stake" now reads, "He was whipped and nailed to the torture stake, suffering an agonizing death" since the rNWT no longer uses the word "impale".

  Images of the NWT have of course been updated from the old black-cover appearance to the gray-cover appearance, including on page 54 where they Photoshopped a woman to be holding the new Bible instead of the old one.  In so doing, they did a cheap job of painting a shadow from her hand on the new gray cover.

  "As you grow in knowledge of Jehovah" on page 55 is now "As you come to know Jehovah", reflecting the change in John 17:3 in the rNWT.  In line with this, the sentence immediately preceding the John citation says "get to know the Great Giver, Jehovah" instead of "get to know more about the Great Giver, Jehovah".
  
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  What's with this "no windows in kingdom halls" thing?

  by Trapped in JW land in

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  i hear many people on this forum say that kh's don't have windows.

  but i have never been to one that didn't have windows.

  is this only in a certain area or something?.

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  You never extrapolated?  Sorry, this sounded like extrapolation:

  As I said above, no KHs have so much as a single window in my area, and that is by design. I believe that older KHs had windows and then, for practical reasons, windows were eliminated from designs.

  What was the basis for your stated belief in the second sentence, if not the reason that you gave in the preceding sentence?
  

  Correcting my use of "yourself" while writing "then it seems that some's mentioning kingdom halls without windows" is really funny, thanks for the laugh.  Also, "Kingdom Hall" is capitalized and that's not how you spell "accommodate".
  
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  Is this why the book is grey?

  by Doug Mason in

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  the 2014 revised edition of "what does the bible really teach?

  " uses the text of the 2013 nwt.

  i therefore assume this is the reason for the grey colour of the "bible teach" book.. examples of the adjustments appear at pages 216 and 217 of the book:.

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  Apognophos

  See http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/289468/what-changes-reflected-new-bible-teach-book for a comparison of the book's old/new editions.
  
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  Please post new forum feedback or questions here

  by Simon in

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  well, the switchover happened - there were a couple of things i had to fix which meant the posting was disabled for longer than i planned but it's now enabled and some people have already posted.. if you have any questions about the new format or suggestions on how to improve it, please post them here.. if you are having trouble signing in or posting then you'll need to email me instead.. many thanks to everyone for their patience during the changeover !.

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  Oh, sweet, I just saw the graph of posting activity under my name.  I was actually wishing for a while now that I could see the level of my activity over time, that's really helpful.
  
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  What Are changes reflected in New Bible teach book?

  by Joshua.r in

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  except picture changes, what are the content changed in new bible teach book?

  which pages?.

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  Oh, great, thanks wifibandit, reading through this now.  So far most of the changes are updating the scriptural quotations to the rNWT's version, as expected. Though I am surprised that they removed the "drenched with misery" rendering that was quoted from The Holy Bible in the Language of Today on the first page. That is a more poetic phrase than "filled with dishonor and affliction".

  The next notable change is that they've changed some of the passive scripture citations to the same style of "Read" directives that they use in the Watchtower study articles and maybe elsewhere; so "—1 Peter 5:7" might become "—Read 1 Peter 5:7."

  Page 16 makes the surprising change of "spirit" to "Spirit" and "person" to "Person" when referring to Jehovah. I'm not familiar with this being done before in the literature.
  
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  Please post new forum feedback or questions here

  by Simon in

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  well, the switchover happened - there were a couple of things i had to fix which meant the posting was disabled for longer than i planned but it's now enabled and some people have already posted.. if you have any questions about the new format or suggestions on how to improve it, please post them here.. if you are having trouble signing in or posting then you'll need to email me instead.. many thanks to everyone for their patience during the changeover !.

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  Apognophos

  By the way, please don't feel badly if it seems like I'm reporting a lot of glitches, Simon.  It could be worse. I just went to jw.org and it's in Japanese for no reason.
  
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  Please post new forum feedback or questions here

  by Simon in

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  well, the switchover happened - there were a couple of things i had to fix which meant the posting was disabled for longer than i planned but it's now enabled and some people have already posted.. if you have any questions about the new format or suggestions on how to improve it, please post them here.. if you are having trouble signing in or posting then you'll need to email me instead.. many thanks to everyone for their patience during the changeover !.

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  Apognophos

  This isn't a new issue, but while you're feverishly changing things, can I please convince you to fix the way "Watchtower" is written?  The name of the old Pennsylvania corporation is "Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society", which is where we get the acronym "WTBTS" or "WTB&TS", but the NY corp. is written "Watchtower Society of New York", and the magazine is "The Watchtower", and this is the most well-known method of writing it.  It's never written "WatchTower".

  I've taken the liberty of correcting the language in the copy-paste below, as a suggestion for you. I made the "WatchTower"s into "Watchtower"s except where the full name of the Pennsylvania corporation is used and it's supposed to be "Watch Tower". This is not intended as nitpicking; I just think it looks a lot better this way. The full list of changes is:

  - "Jehovah's Witness religion": "religion" should not be capitalized

  - "Are you people 'The Watchtower'?": removed capital 'T' and space before '?'

  - "as governed by the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society": separated "Watchtower" into "Watch Tower" because the acronym that follows is based on this six-word variant of the name, used by the Penn. corporation
  

  - "join today!": removed space before '!'

  - "Discuss anything Jehovah's Witness": the "'s" was missing after "Jehovah"

  - "or Watchtower Society related": un-capitalized 'T' in "WatchTower", capitalized "society"

  - "Watchtower Society / JW.org | Watchtower": uncapitalized 'T' in "WatchTower"

  As seen here:
  

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  Are you people 'The Watchtower'?

  No - we're an independent community site offering support for both current and former Jehovah's Witnesses and anyone else who has been affected by the beliefs, doctrines and practices of the Jehovah's Witness religion as governed by the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society.

  We are not affiliated with the WTB&TS in any way and we take your privacy and security very seriously doing our utmost to protect your identity and provide a friendly, tolerant and informative environment where you can ask questions, share information and make new friends. Membership is completely free and anonymous so why not join today!

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  Please post new forum feedback or questions here

  by Simon in

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  well, the switchover happened - there were a couple of things i had to fix which meant the posting was disabled for longer than i planned but it's now enabled and some people have already posted.. if you have any questions about the new format or suggestions on how to improve it, please post them here.. if you are having trouble signing in or posting then you'll need to email me instead.. many thanks to everyone for their patience during the changeover !.

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  Apognophos

  The images and YouTube embeds in this thread look like this:

  
  

  
  

  

  
  

  In other words, all the images are unscaled and YouTube loaded in like 1080p for some reason. I'm in Firefox on a Mac.
  
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  Please post new forum feedback or questions here

  by Simon in

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  well, the switchover happened - there were a couple of things i had to fix which meant the posting was disabled for longer than i planned but it's now enabled and some people have already posted.. if you have any questions about the new format or suggestions on how to improve it, please post them here.. if you are having trouble signing in or posting then you'll need to email me instead.. many thanks to everyone for their patience during the changeover !.

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  Apognophos

  Just beginning to click my way around.  I tried to view my PMs, and I got this bizarre survey that was preventing the rest of the page from displaying until I completed it (the black box is to protect the identity of someone I am having a private conversation with, so just ignore that).  Is this supposed to happen?

  
  

  
  

  

  
  

  
  

  Edit: Just went back there and the survey is gone, at least for now.  Can you tell me what the -5 means by the PM icon? I don't have five unread PMs (or any, for that matter).
  
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  Men are not looking forward to becoming Elders or Ministerial Servants

  by Hidden-Window in

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  i have noticed an apparently increasing number of men who are not interested in becoming ministerial servants or elders.

  i also know of some that have voluntarily stepped down (which is my case) for no obvious solid reason.. i remember, during my teenage years or even during my twenties, the brothers were always looking forward to being appointed... although many still do, i have noticed there are many others with whom you do not know what the deal is.. since there is no freedom of speech within the organization, we remain in the dark about the motives and desires of everybody else.

  i attend a congregation with only two ministerial servants, while it is full of men who do not seem to be willing to do more.. it is hard to tell exactly what is going on, since honesty is not possible while you are inside, but i am starting to think that more and more are becoming disillusioned.... .

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  It's not fair to suggest that it's all about wanting to climb the ladder. It's funny how many of you were MSes or elders and now you can only assign bad motives to the ones who are still in. There's still sincere brothers in there who feel that they're just doing what's expected of them: they fulfill their assignments and go out in service, then one day they're asked to be an MS, and they don't feel they can say "no"... years pass, and the same thing happens again, and now they're an elder. And they feel like they're pleasing Jehovah by helping the congregation. They're working hard for little reward, and they don't wear their title like a badge.

  Personally, it seemed like a world of pain, and I saw no reason to work hard enough to meet the field service requirement just so that I could be made an MS. But I was rather self-centered. I can't claim credit for having known TTATT at the time, I just didn't want all the work and the interpersonal obligations.