Posts by Apognophos

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Why did you pick the name you have now

by label licker in

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just wondering if your name describes what you saw, how you were treated when you were "in" or now "out", maybe your personality, ect.... i'm label licker and the why i picked this name was because of all the licking up one side of elders and down the other to either be an elder or ministerial servant.

one time i was standing right in front of this brother who wasn't made an ms yet and he totally ignored me and talked right over my head speaking really loud trying to catch the co's attention.. got sick of watching the poor elderly sitting all alone or standing against the wall like a wall flower with noone to talk to and yet all these label lickers would take turns picking up the elders elderly parents and take them shopping and do their groceries at least four times a week while out in service, yet, there was noone there to take a meal to a sister who just got out of the hospital with a heart attack.

when i had shown up at her apartment with a meal she asked if i could wash her private and change her bandages.

Apognophos

Apo- meaning "away from".
gnophos meaning "darkness" or "gloom".

During the time when I was a believing Witness, but falling short of their standards, I considered myself as good as dead once Armageddon came around. It was during that time that I began posting on the Internet as Gnophos. It was years before I realized that the beliefs that condemned me might be entirely fictitious. Now I am trying to move away from darkness (mentally and emotionally) towards the light.

“Apog” is a handy nickname :)

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Is the Truth so delicate?

by Socrateswannabe in

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the gb brooks no questions or dissention.

their brand of truth seems quite delicate and incapable of standing up to scrutiny.

"the truth is incontrovertible.

Apognophos

Yes, I've known Witneses who used that principle to justify lying to other Witnesses or "worldlies" -- in their mind, if they don't want somebody to know something, then that person is not entitled to the truth, so it's biblically okay!

jhine, I recommend you read the entire article that irondork quoted from: Insight - Lie.

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Your worst store accident?

by Apognophos in

mine: i was walking around a grocery store with one of those snapple iced tea boxes dangling from one hand, looking for the other thing i ran in to buy.

suddenly the flimsy cardboard side of the box came unglued, and bottles dumped out, smashing open on the floor.

a river of iced tea began to run down the aisle.

Apognophos

I should probably mention that it was early morning and there was no one else around except the employee who saw the accident.

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Your worst store accident?

by Apognophos in

mine: i was walking around a grocery store with one of those snapple iced tea boxes dangling from one hand, looking for the other thing i ran in to buy.

suddenly the flimsy cardboard side of the box came unglued, and bottles dumped out, smashing open on the floor.

a river of iced tea began to run down the aisle.

Apognophos

I have a feeling every mother in the world can top my story.

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So where is all this supposed worldwide persecution of Jehovah's Witnesses?

by Reality79 in

for years, it was drummed into our heads that the whole world lies in the hands of the wicked one who hates us and a result, mankind particularly hates the jws with a passion.. now that i think about it, i've seen very little evidence of that.

i mean yes, in places like malawi, germany and some other countries the witnesses have been through real persecution - not the type that the average dub would call it like doors being slammed in the face.

but what have they experienced that many other religions in other countries haven't?

Apognophos

All the above being said, if the government ever considers taking away the tax-free status of the org., it certainly will seem to fulfill the JWs' expectations.

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Your worst store accident?

by Apognophos in

mine: i was walking around a grocery store with one of those snapple iced tea boxes dangling from one hand, looking for the other thing i ran in to buy.

suddenly the flimsy cardboard side of the box came unglued, and bottles dumped out, smashing open on the floor.

a river of iced tea began to run down the aisle.

Apognophos

Mine: I was walking around a grocery store with one of those Snapple iced tea boxes dangling from one hand, looking for the other thing I ran in to buy. Suddenly the flimsy cardboard side of the box came unglued, and bottles dumped out, smashing open on the floor. A river of iced tea began to run down the aisle. I stopped, looked at a nearby employee who was looking at me, put down the rest of the box and walked away.

Thankfully I don't shop there regularly. And since the bottles were ejected away from me, I didn't get a drop on me. Felt sorry for the guy on cleanup, though.

P.S.: Always support those boxes underneath with one hand to take weight off the handle!

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Music you never noticed was ...

by nibbled in

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i have friends in very cool jobs.

my world interacts quite often with music stars, and i have interesting conversations.

for instance, i was talking with the members of animal kingdom, and asked the lead singer about the lyrics i picked up while listening them perform for the group a few minutes earlier... i felt stupid because i hadn't realized the name of the song, and only had caught a few lyrics... he wrote of mephistopheles.

Apognophos

I read the OP very carefully and I have no idea what it's trying to say. Maybe after I figure that out, I can move on to song lyrics.

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Is the Truth so delicate?

by Socrateswannabe in

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the gb brooks no questions or dissention.

their brand of truth seems quite delicate and incapable of standing up to scrutiny.

"the truth is incontrovertible.

Apognophos

Is the Truth so delicate?

That was the question I asked myself when I heard fellow Witnesses, who I considered to be intelligent, agreeing not to read a certain book because it talked about religion and God in a skeptical light and they were afraid it 'would make them fall out of the truth'. It was years before I would actually read anything apostate and realize how the wool had been pulled over my eyes, but those brothers made me wake up a little and wonder how anyone could be afraid to take in information if they believed they had the truth.

is it true that a witness is allowed to lie when the person asking the question is not entitled to know the answer ie someone outside of the organisation ?

Besides the WT quote above, there's also a scripture which this is based on; something about giving the truth to those who are owed it, but I can't find it right now.

@pixel: The point in that definition that they were emphasizing was "intent". If a person gives wrong information unknowingly, he's not lying. Then, separately after the WT makes that point, they also talk about lying being okay when the truth is not owed someone.

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You-are-too-dumb: Proper handling of nested magazines (BOE Letter)

by pixel in

to all bodies of elders.

re: proper handling of nested magazines.

dear brothers:.

Apognophos

It's not that surprising that JWs are placing the nested magazines -- why would someone be leafing through all the duplicate copies they place before placing them? Witnesses get one for themself separately as a personal copy, so if they read one, it probably won't be one from the stack they stuffed in their book bag.

As someone all-too-experienced with the incompetence that plagues large corporations, this sounds like the kind of thing that happens when someone up high makes a dumb-ass decision and then they have to continually try to coax the lower-downs in how to deal with the stupid rule or practice, instead of re-considering how it's being done (which would require admitting that a mistake was made). That being said, I don't know how the printing process works and how avoidable this was.

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Jehovah's Witnesses What Can We Do To Help Our Elders

by BlindersOff1 in

i suggest hire a monkey.. since all elders do if you ask them for help.

is tell a person to.

pray more.

Apognophos

I have to admit, those six points are good advice, AuntConnie. I think a lot of elders feel like everyone's taking and no one's giving. Just because we don't believe they have the truth, it doesn't mean we shouldn't empathize with the sincere ones who are just trying to do what's expected of them.