i ran in to a ex-jw and had a good laugh once he realized i was not going to shun him.
i am a different soul when we are dealing with watchtower demonology, everything about the organization is fan boy based.
watchtower creates the illusion of a community that never existed, we were too blind to realize most of the people we invested time with was nothing more than a farce, once you can't offer up more sacrfices on the watchtower's alter, your going to get less attention and eventually if your kingdom hall is big enough, they won't come looking for you.. .
Dear RottenRiley,
Not everyone is as fortunate (or soulless) to leave everything behind within the blink of an eye. It may sound easy to leave and not be mad but when your whole history is wiped out from under your butt I really do understand why some people are getting batcrazy.
Do I blame the WTS for creating a false promise to all these dumb chickenshit people (that is what you like to call them)? Yes I do... just like I do not like people that lie to me all the time.
i don't know how many others have gotten this question that i got recently.
i wonder if it was the co that thought this would be a great question to try to reactivate someone like me:.
at the time, i was kinda blindsided by the question and gave just an okay response.
According to the RNWT noone since it got deleted ;)
i don't know how many others have gotten this question that i got recently.
i wonder if it was the co that thought this would be a great question to try to reactivate someone like me:.
at the time, i was kinda blindsided by the question and gave just an okay response.
"But the Bible also says it would come instantly, with great surprise."
I mean seriously...
How could you be surprised if you saw it coming? :P
Jesus said that it would come at a time that noone would expect... sooo if you are expecting it any time soon you can bet your ass it will take at least hundreds of years ;)
please help me out here .. in genesis 2:16 it says " and jehovah god also laid this command upon the man: from every tree of the garden you may eat to satisfaction.
17 but as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad you must not eat from it , for in the day you eat from it ,you will positively die.. ok we get that , but what about this ?.
wouldnt it make more sense to forbid the eating of the tree of life first ?
Some must wonder... Why a snake?...why was a snake a known deceiver... I mean.. God created everything perfectly... So something was wrong already ;). The genesis account is a story... Nothing more... Nothing less. Sorry for the spoils x
this went bad, i hit click before i could post my thoughts about the fear factor going through our crazy kingdom hall.
the title of this thread was aimed at asking why the governing body is becoming so afraid and demanding the elders and rank and file to put their trust in the dukes of the kingdom hall.
(pslams 146:3).. .
I think they want to take part of the four blood moons that are happening in this period of time (with one on 4 april 2015)... I have read some crap about that. Anyways... it MIGHT be that they believe this shit because why do they want to "rush" the building work of their temple in
A quote from a website
It cannot be regarded as coincidence that all four blood moons of 2014/15 occur on religious festivals of Israel, together with two eclipses of the sun also on important days in 2015. A blood moon will occur on the 14 th day of Nisan in 2014, when the Passover will be celebrated in Israel (cf. Lev. 23:5). Nisan is the first month in Israel's religious calendar. On the 15 th day of the seventh month (Tishri) when the feast of Tabernacles begins (cf. Lev. 23:34), there will be another blood moon. Exactly the same pattern will be repeated in 2015. Because of Israel's lunar calendar these dates all coincide with the full moon - on these occasions the moon will become blood-red. Apart from the lunar eclipses there will also be two eclipses of the sun in 2015 - on the first day of Nisan and again on the first day of Tishri. The Rosh Hashanah (Jewish New Year) is celebrated on 1 st Tishri, which is the beginning of their civil calendar.
The discoveries of Mark Biltz are even more significant when it is taken into account that the year from 25 Sept. 2014 to 13 Sept. 2015 will be a sabbatical year which will conclude the year-week which starts with Rosh Hashanah on 30 Sept. 2008. Four blood moons in successive years will never occur again during the entire remainder of the 21 st century. (taken from some topics before :P)
i read article after article about the billions the gb rakes in from fleecing the sheep but i've never heard anyone explain what happens to the money.. i mean is it in a swiss account?
are the gb living in private mansions?
where does the $ go?.
I think they are building a spaceship so they can preach in other galaxies...
This is one of the images that shows clearly why we should not even think about us as the center of the universe... THE species that is gonna answer a big answer to an even bigger issue... It is quite arrogant and stupid to even think that
please help me out here .. in genesis 2:16 it says " and jehovah god also laid this command upon the man: from every tree of the garden you may eat to satisfaction.
17 but as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad you must not eat from it , for in the day you eat from it ,you will positively die.. ok we get that , but what about this ?.
wouldnt it make more sense to forbid the eating of the tree of life first ?
Most funny thing is that the "tree" story originated from babylon and was later on added by the Jews. So where everyone seems to believe it was the babylonians taking the flood/tree/women/serpent account it was actually the other way around (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilgamesh_epic).
Together with all kind of goofy crap that went into the bible (the golden Calf (El worshippers)), Asherah and the Copper Serpent it is actually a very good fantasy book!
thought some might find this interesting... .
where do you get your morality from?
don't assume that atheists don't have morals.
@abiather... you do not really understand what I mean do you? First of all I say I am no atheist... but I am not a theist either (I do not believe that this higher power is controlling the events... that is a human teaching and based on old books from some horny shepherds in the desert).
You are calling him a father and us his childs... well... I do not like to be a father who lets his kids riddle their way in life all the time without any clarification. Therefore the onus INDEED lies with him. A father is bigger then a child isn't he? An adult can be taken into full account what he has done or not done... A child can't in the same degree.
I do not understand how any theist even conscider himself a child to someone who doesn't show himself... the "love" they feel is simply an emotion that is not coming because of a outside factor but more of wishfull thinking of the person himself. It is the same for a kid which father has suddenly left their lives and the kids are pampering a warm feeling for the father and while thinking of him get warm emotions (although they got betrayed by him).
It is therefore that I can not be accounted for anything since there is nothing in MY time that has convinced me of his existence and his real wishes with me as a "son". If he did I would follow him straight away.... and "HE" if he WAS omnitopent would have known that. ;)
thought some might find this interesting... .
where do you get your morality from?
don't assume that atheists don't have morals.
Although I am not an atheist (no theist either) I must say that what is stated above is true and are very wise words.
The "what if you are wrong" question which is asked quite frequently by believers is actually quite easy to anwer: If I am wrong then God has not done enough to prove me otherwise.
