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sunstarr
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Watchtower Article Titles We'll Never See
by COMF ini saw redhorsewoman's thread title, "the time is at hand", and knew why she picked it: because the society uses that phrase all the time (or used to when i was in, anyway... i'm betting they still do).
it reminded me of a district assembly part from along about 1983 called "now is the time" (can any of you brighter types guess which song they chose to accompany it?).
this got me to thinking of how the society has these pet phrases they use over and over again, often featuring them in some thinly reworked format (like going from "now is the time" to "the time is at hand") as article titles.
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The Bible Advocates Drunkenness
by sunstarr injeremiah 25:27 - "and you must say to them, 'this is what jehovah of armies, the god of israel, has said: "drink and get drunk and fall so that you cannot get up...".
vs. 28 - and it must occur that in case they refuse to take the cup out of your hand to drink, you must also say to them, 'this is what jehovah of armies has said: "you will drink without fail..."'.
these are probably my favorite verses in the bible.
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sunstarr
Borgfree,
Come over to my house and we'll read those verses together!! Everyone else is invited too!
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The Bible Advocates Drunkenness
by sunstarr injeremiah 25:27 - "and you must say to them, 'this is what jehovah of armies, the god of israel, has said: "drink and get drunk and fall so that you cannot get up...".
vs. 28 - and it must occur that in case they refuse to take the cup out of your hand to drink, you must also say to them, 'this is what jehovah of armies has said: "you will drink without fail..."'.
these are probably my favorite verses in the bible.
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sunstarr
Jeremiah 25:27 - "And you must say to them, 'This is what Jehovah of armies, the God of Israel, has said: "Drink and get drunk and fall so that you cannot get up..."
vs. 28 - And it must occur that in case they refuse to take the cup out of your hand to drink, you must also say to them, 'This is what Jehovah of armies has said: "You will drink without fail..."'
These are probably my favorite verses in the Bible.
(quotes from the New World Translation)
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A Priori Tabla Rasa blah blah blah
by Nathan Natas ini hereby claim all ideas past and future as my intellecutal property.. slipnslide around that you sneaky copycats, you!
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your serve...
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sunstarr
Who gets credit for the ideas that are Present and waiting to become Past?
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Watchtower Article Titles We'll Never See
by COMF ini saw redhorsewoman's thread title, "the time is at hand", and knew why she picked it: because the society uses that phrase all the time (or used to when i was in, anyway... i'm betting they still do).
it reminded me of a district assembly part from along about 1983 called "now is the time" (can any of you brighter types guess which song they chose to accompany it?).
this got me to thinking of how the society has these pet phrases they use over and over again, often featuring them in some thinly reworked format (like going from "now is the time" to "the time is at hand") as article titles.
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sunstarr
Revelation - It's Grand Climax in the Unforseeable Future!
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"Mire of atheism..."
by Julie in:i welcome those of your quality of character and refusal to sink into the mire of atheism or deep cynicism, .
i found these words to be so interesting.
i have seen posts (albeit few) that discuss the bible and whether or not it is of god.
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sunstarr
in 1,000 years they will be worshiping me
Maybe they'll believe that they evolved from you. You'll be the next Neanderthal Man. Hoo-ray!
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"Mire of atheism..."
by Julie in:i welcome those of your quality of character and refusal to sink into the mire of atheism or deep cynicism, .
i found these words to be so interesting.
i have seen posts (albeit few) that discuss the bible and whether or not it is of god.
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sunstarr
bboyneko:
I'm sure God, in his infinite wisdom, killed the evil babys and infants. Really, why didnt god just make the evil nations barren, the women unable to conceive and the men infertile..have them die out peacfully. Is it just to punish innocent babys for the ins of their fathers? The bible says no, yet god did it all the time.
Where would you draw the line between God's intervention and man's free will? Perhaps God felt that a point had to be made. Why did he allow 10 plagues to befall Egypt? Why not just peacefully walk his people out of the land? Clearly neither Pharaoh, nor the Egyptians had any respect for God. Further, what would peacefully walking them out of Egypt say to surrounding nations about the true God? Pharaoh was given a warning. "Let my people go..." He said no. The plagues came and went, and eventually he got the point. He then let the people go. His heart again changed and he pursued the Israelites. To what end? He and his army were destroyed in the Red Sea. Again, a point was made. A point that most definitely would not have been made had they just been peacefully led from the land. You then said "...punish innocent babies for the sins of their fathers." What makes you think it's punishment? How do you know that the babies are not now in a better place? To say that they were "punished" by being killed is to judge what happened to them at death? Does anyone really know what happened to them at death?
It seems to me that many on this board advocate science as a means of explaining the origin of humanity. So let's use that as a basis for a scenario:
You are a scientist at the top of your field. No one can match your knowledge or expertise. You create an experiment that allows you to completely monitor and control your parameters. Along come some college students who suggest that you are not fit to conduct such an experiment and that it would be better run under it's own guidance, completely self-propelled. You defend that this is not the case and that the experiment should clearly be run under your supervision, yet, to prove your point, you adjust the experiment. It will now be self-sufficient in it's proceedings. Along the way, a few conditions begin to develop that you don't agree with. Yet, to conduct the experiment properly, you must avoid interfering. However, the college students begin to interfere in a way that would be destructive to the nature of the experiment. Therefore, from time to time, you must step in to ensure a balance. Why do you allow some things to happen, and yet step in for other cases? Only you, as the scientist, can decide what is necessary to allow in order to accurately prove your point. No one else can judge. Further, the experiment must run it's course for a sufficient amount of time in order to justify your position. Does this mean that you do not care about the things you have created? Most certainly not. Naturally, you do care and wish for your experiment to be successful.
Although this illustration can no where near compare to the position God is in, it may give some basis for why things happen the way they do. Of course, this is just my perspective. No one has to agree with it, but it may serve as something interesting to think about.
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So Who's Going to WNFJ?
by NeonMadman in-just curious who's going to be at the witnesses now for jesus conference in pennsylvania come october 19-22. i'm definitely going to be there, and i'd love to run into lots of you good folks.... the program has been posted at http://pfo.org
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sunstarr
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I plan on being there. Maybe I'll see you.
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How Would You Respond?
by silentlambs ini know this is kind of like shooting fish in a barrel, but i just have to share this email i got a few minutes ago.
i think it encapsulates the response many will have, no matter what is said about the molestation issue.
i invite you read it, put yourself in my shoes, and see how you might offer a response.
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sunstarr
At what point did the issue ever become supporting "perfect organizations?" Isn't the real issue here that the Witnesses are subverting law? Laws have been created to protect the public from these monsters who take pleasure in abusing children. Were those law-makers "mind readers?" Cleary not! How about the judges or jury panels who sit and listen to these trials? Is it this individual's suggestion that we simply dismiss all law because occasional mistakes are made? Perhaps we should dismiss laws on murder because innocent people are put in prison on rare occasions. Laws on theft? Witnesses like to quote the scripture that says "Pay back Caesar's things to Caesar, but God's things to God," thus indicating that they abide by law. Has it escaped this person's insight that reporting child molesters IS LAW? It's certainly amazing to me that God's "pure organization" would take part in blatant cover-ups rather than expose its offenders. This is just another example of a Witness attacking what threatens the "harmoniously-joined" WBTS.
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Watchtower accepting credit cards ?
by BERNARD ini was trolling around on the great crowd board of jehovah.
witnesses and one mention about a credit card machine being.
installed in an asssembly hall of jehovah witness.
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sunstarr
Will they take American Express?