Posts by goodsoul

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CO want to talk to me

by goodsoul in

co want to talk to me.

first of all, i am very apologize for my english- i am studying this language nearly 2 years, so it's not that good yet, unfortunately.

also, it's my first topic.

Thanks to all of you, guys! Now I almost confident, that things will go the way we need.
Newly Enlightened, thanks, I see you on a same boat. How I understand you...
Thanks, Bob_NC, OnTheWayOut for your clear thoughts, it makes easier for me to formulate stuff.

Thanks, Aussie Oz! I shared info with guys, who I thought, were my friends(at least one of them. I supported him so much and he was really appreciate. So I didn't think things will go that way).
I intend to write pretty clear letter about my feelings, confusion, hard times and ect. without any mentioning about teaching or WT at all. I don't have to be sincere with them. I don't have anything against them, but they are blind and I am not a doctor.

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long time lurker (3-4 years) first time poster

by Patient-dude in

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hey i have come to love some of the discussions on here and the information.

i am currently awake and have no plans to fade, in my case i am patient enough to in time become an elder to at least help the younger friends here in my area, in the sense of helping them wake up/if elder have their back..

goodsoul

Looks like a troll..

But Patient-dude, if you want to be an elder, I could give you my credentials. I intend to return them this week. So I could send it to you directly(anyway, holy spirit has nothing with it).

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CO want to talk to me

by goodsoul in

co want to talk to me.

first of all, i am very apologize for my english- i am studying this language nearly 2 years, so it's not that good yet, unfortunately.

also, it's my first topic.

goodsoul

Thanks again to all!
Your advices makes my mind more clear, since after yesterday's elders visit I am still too emotional.
Thanks a lot, RayPublisher for your PM!
Thanks, problemaddict, I will follow your advice and will specify, that I brought my thoughts to "older men" as instructed. Finally, it is truth, I did it only to not bothered others, since it doesn't have sence. But it didn't have sence to met with elders either..but they were my "friends"..
My native language is slavic.
Good thought,ruderedhead, I am going to send letter this week. And I will try to escape(mama mia, from whom?!!!)during these days.
It is so ugly..If I knew these things before I stepped into this sect..But there where good things too. I found there my dear wife, who is with me in all my(our) JW matters. Hope to help her family too.

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CO want to talk to me

by goodsoul in

co want to talk to me.

first of all, i am very apologize for my english- i am studying this language nearly 2 years, so it's not that good yet, unfortunately.

also, it's my first topic.

goodsoul

Thanks to all for your responses!

Elders and COs logic is pretty clear for me and I don't have any illusions about how quick they will kick me off.

I see, that the only one option is to go this way. CO knows me as pretty usable tool, so I doubt, that he would want to get rid of me quickly only on base on two elders opinion. I had pretty good relationships in a past with these two elders, who met with me. I know, that this is nothing when they considering me as apostate. But they were quite insistant during our meetings with them and blandish me to be as at "good old times".

So I think to write email and send to CO and P/O and say something like: I have very tough time, so I don't think I will be able to be example for the flock at these period and serve as an elder. Local elders were trying to met with me few times, but I feel their insistance and pushing me to attend meetings or serve as an elder. I am not ready to do that at the moment. I need more time to settle down my life and thoughts, and I don't want to discuss anything for now and to regret afterward about it.

And GONE after that and avoid any any contact with them. I think it's quite possible, since we do not contact with anyone else from congregation. Maybe even to change place of living(it's pretty complicated, but possible- to have quietness).

Anyway, thanks everyone for advices!

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CO want to talk to me

by goodsoul in

co want to talk to me.

first of all, i am very apologize for my english- i am studying this language nearly 2 years, so it's not that good yet, unfortunately.

also, it's my first topic.

goodsoul

Thanks a lot, everyone! suavojr, yes, I didn't intend to meet with CO. I will try to play cards, but i doubt, that I will be able to do this sincerely.. Thanks jgnat, but it think that going back to the meetings anymore is the option for me. I hate their lies so much, that am afraid I will vomit(sorry about my difficult personality). Thanks wannabefree! The thing is, that I NEVER TOLD ANYONE about my doubts or so, except few local elders and few other friends, who are elders as well. So they don't have any facts of causing divisions by me..but I am not sure, what could be else treated under this description. Thanks DATA-DOG! It looks like the only one option for me is to resign as an elder for personal reason, send email about it to local elder(and CO maybe), to hide and to avoid ANY contacts and communication with elders..I think, it is possible. Personally for me there is no issue with anything of it..just concerned about my wifes and parents feelings..What an idiotic cult- they don't care about anyones feelings at all! It is so tough to see, how momentary your "friends" converted to judges. But what to do- it's better to be alone than with this sort of people.. thanks again for support.

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CO want to talk to me

by goodsoul in

co want to talk to me.

first of all, i am very apologize for my english- i am studying this language nearly 2 years, so it's not that good yet, unfortunately.

also, it's my first topic.

goodsoul

CO want to talk to me
First of all, I am very apologize for my English- I am studying this language nearly 2 years, so it's not that good yet, unfortunately. Also, it's my first topic. But I have one important and urgent question.
Me and my wife are fading nearly 4 months for now. I am fully confident, that Watchtower- is totally deceptive and harmful place to be there. But we don't want to be disfellowshipped or disassociate ourselves because of our family members, who are still in a borg. Next week CO going to visit "our" congregation and he want to talk to me. The problem is, that I am still formally an elder and we have been pretty active all our JW being and stopped attend meetings very suddenly . We served on different territories for our own expenses and I participated in convention parts and etc. and ect. So the question is WHAT HAPPENED? I had a few conversation with local elders, asked some regular questions(1914, 1919, two hopes, governing body, doctrin changes etc.) and sure, didn't recieved any resonable answers. Last visit was yesterday- about my responsibilities. I said, that I don't care about it- let them do with it whatever they think is appropriate. Also I said, that I don't have any questions any more to anyone, and I don't want to discuss anything from my beliefs with anybody else. I said, that I don't see any need to meet with CO and if he will have any questions- let he call or email me, but again, I am not inclined to any discussions.
I just want to ask about any advice or any thoughts about how to proceed our fading without being disfellowshipped. Actually, I don't care about it so much, the only one thing that I am concerned- it's our parents.They anyway will communicate with us, but it will definitely will cause them some troubles.
Thanks a lot in advance to everyone!

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Who are the REAL demons behind the Watchtower?

by Dogpatch in

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i apologize for not writing much of anything in several weeks.. did you miss me?

(don't answer that!).

i am doing pretty good now after going through the worst year of my 60 years of life... but in order to make some changes that will enable me to keep working, i really had to take time off to take care of medical issues (mostly my spine - destroyed after 30 years spending 10-12 hours a day on the computer).

goodsoul

Few days I was researching connection WT with freemasons(or how to call them properly- I don't care). There are a bunch of videos about it on that guy channel
http://www.youtube.com/user/dallywally72?feature=watch
I never seriously took idea about their power or their believes, or their structure..But there are a lot of similarities between them and WT. It looks very logical for me, that freemasons(or who they are) have some influence on WT. I always had this question: why WT want to humiliate Jesus and his role and promote Jehovah. I was especially amazed, when discover that freemasons hate Christ and worship Jah-Bul-On - Jah+Baal+Osiris. Also refusing blood transfusion, that cause deaths of thousands of people, cover pedophilia explain me influence of demons on WT. I am not superstitious person, but all these similarities look very and very suspisious. Anyone has any ideas?

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Who Is The Biggest Control Freak On The Governing Body, Anthony Morris III, Gets My Vote

by frankiespeakin in

due to lack of any intimacy with these guys it is hard to say for sure, but listening to the talks on the internet i think anthony morris is the biggest with gerrit losch second runner-up.. .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xml-u6-kkj8.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b7drwti-h4.

goodsoul

---The GB are talking parrots for the real (human) devils in charge.
Randy

That is interesting. Any idea who really is in charge for all JW inventions? Not in spiritual sense. I mean, which people? Thanks.

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Will you attend the Memorial this year? Why? Why not?

by Open mind in

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goodsoul

We will celebrate our first absence on memorial. I was invited to give memorial talk at the other congregation where are a lot of bethelites. It should be my third memorial talk. Already reject invitation. First I thought to give talk and to say, that there are no two type of hope. It would be funny to see their eyes.

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How Long has it Been since you Last Attended Meetings and What Caused...

by flipper in

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..... you to stop attending ?

injustices ?

disagree with the teachings ?

goodsoul

My last meeting was few months ago. I remember, that then I told my wife:"It's definitely my last time here. This place is not for me." I remember my last comment on this meeting,it was something regarding Jeremiah. Something kind of "..he boldly denounced hypocritical leaders of Israel..It costs him a lot, but he never stoped. It's good example for me." After that my wife were present there for a few times and after that stopped also. I am still formally elder, but during CO visit next month it probably(and hopefully) will be reviewed. Although we were very active during all our time in org., now I think it is most deceptive and harmful sect. No more faithful in evil slaves and witchtower in our life. greetings franticfran and everyone new here!