"And if God has let"
Too true mp, jws like to use the one in Jeremiah? it doesnt belong to man to direct his step.
GoneAwol
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Where is Jehovah?
by His Excellency inhow do we reconcile those bullshits being told at the meetings about how jehovah's eyes are upon us and how his figurative wings serves as protection to those who are destitute with the condition of these sickly sudanese refugees at this camp.. .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oihlh1xd2lu&feature=g-all-u.
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Where is Jehovah?
by His Excellency inhow do we reconcile those bullshits being told at the meetings about how jehovah's eyes are upon us and how his figurative wings serves as protection to those who are destitute with the condition of these sickly sudanese refugees at this camp.. .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oihlh1xd2lu&feature=g-all-u.
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Witness my Fury:
"In the absense of God even Satan could have stepped up to be the good guy and take gods place and come out smelling of roses, ...never happened, never will, as he doesnt exist either."
Never thought of it like that! Exellent point. Satan is supposed to be able to transform himself into an angel of light. He's had so many opportunities to look the hero. Show God up for an uncaring being. Why hasnt he? Why is no point scoring going on between them? It is an issue of universal sovereignty after all...
And if God has let man rule himself in order to prove they are useless at governing themselves, has Satan decided to do the very same thing? mmm
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My chat with an Elder about the UN thing! Help!
by awakening inwell it was a very long discussion.
the elder knew nothing about the scandal, but he stated that he had no issue with it since when the case was brought to light, the society acted immediately to right their course.
in fact he thought it was a sign that that the organisation was indeed the "truth".
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GoneAwol
Ask him if he knows what an OSCE is and why the jws send reps to meetups. From JWfacts:
"With 56 States from Europe, Central Asia and North America, the OSCE is the world's largest regional security organization. It offers a forum for political negotiations and decision-making in the fields of early warning, conflict prevention, crisis management and post-conflict rehabilitation, and puts the political will of its participating States into practice through its unique network of field missions.
"The OSCE has a comprehensive approach to security that encompasses politico-military, economic and environmental, and human aspects." (osce.org/who 6th Oct 2012)
The OSCE is closely aligned with the United Nations.
The OSCE recognizes that the United Nations Security Council bears primary responsibility for the maintenance of international peace and security. Thus, the United Nations is the OSCE's primary partner organization. (osce.org/ec/43240)
Me thinks they dilly dally with the politics too much!
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What is the best way to celebrate ?
by Phizzy inwhat is the best way for an inactive/ fader like me to celebrate the anniversary of my walking away from all things jw ?.
as my last meeting was the memorial several years ago, it always falls around this time of year.. my first instinct is,........ wait for it............. you've guessed it............... lots of beer !.
but what i was looking for was something that would send a message to jw's, especially family that are in, without them having a way to dismiss it as me being provocative or whatever.. any ideas ????
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GoneAwol
A nice Trinidad stogie and a coupla 'hired for the occasion' blonde twins on each arm. Then a soulfull karaoke rendition of Running Free by Iron Maiden. "get out my way yeah!"
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The Apostate Boogeyman--a figment of JW imagination
by Londo111 inapostates are a figment of the jw imagination.
not necessarily the dictionary definition of the word apostate, which simply means a person who leaves their religion, for by that definition everyone who leaves a religion to become a jw is an apostate--but the jw conception of the apostate, both as an individual and as a 'group' is imaginary.. .
for starters, the watchtower goes beyond the definition of merely leaving the religion, if a person disagrees with a doctrine or practice of the organization, even if they dont voice it, that is a thoughtcrime called apostasy.
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GoneAwol
I remember as a kid in the early 80s walking with my mum through the cut in Riversdale Crescent, Murrayfield, and seeing all the evil apostates with placards shouting. My mum put her hands over my ears while we walked. She said they would drag me away and teach me about satan. At that age, i believed her. Shes horrified that i have done further research on "that apostate interweb". I feel so sorry and helpless for her...
GoneAwol..for good
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How many are happy Not to go d2d this Sunday morning?
by LoisLane looking for Superman init is midnight here in the north pacific.
but for you in france and germany, it is 9 am.
doesn't it feel great to do something else, anything else, then knock, knock, knocking on peoples doors?.
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GoneAwol
Morning all! Me and wifey just off on our trusty touring motorbike riding around the Lake District here in Britain. Snow capped mountains reflected in glassy lakes! Perfect! We'll take some photos, ride on an old steam boat, watch the ospreys looking for fish. Its only 4 degrees c. Brrr! But spring is definitly around the corner. We feel closer to nature than we ever did knocking on doors. We feel for each and every one of you that still has to do that crazy shit! Truly we do..
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It is Saturday morning. How many are thrilled that they are Not going d2d today?
by LoisLane looking for Superman in.
me - me - me!!!.
just lois.
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GoneAwol
finally awake - "me! I'm spending the day planting seeds for my garden. i will have tomatos this year!"
Same here! Saturday is allotment day. Busy digging and sowing veg seed. 'I planted, wifey watered, and nature made em grow!' mmmmm tomatoes!
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Why you CAN'T make sense of it.
by baltar447 ingoing through an dealing with a mentally ill spouse (living hell, long story, pm me if you want details), and talking to others who have dealt with the mentally ill, i've come to an epiphany.. you cannot make sense of "crazy".
that's why, when you get out of the wt, get out of the mind control, and try to reason with your loved ones or friends, it will not work.
we are dealing with people under mind control and i believe that is a close cousin of mental illness.
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GoneAwol
You make a valid point Baltar. I think most cults pray on vulnerable people with promises of a better life. They get love bombed etc. But what they dont get from a cult is reasonable help and answers to how THEY are feeling. Its all about slaving for the borg. If you are depressed, DO MORE PREACHING!
The issues people have are repressed and not dealt with, until they surface years later as severe mental problems. The human mind can only take so much pressure until it pops.
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You know you can trust a man when...
by usualusername inhe wears a belt and has clean shoes... .
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GoneAwol
...when he tells you your bum definitly looks big in this!
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Resigned being an elder
by subytrek ini am new here and this is my first post although i have lurked here for a couple years.
i started having doubts about the org back then and my curiosity overcame my fear of so-called apostate websites so here i am.
i just resigned being an elder 2 weeks ago.
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GoneAwol
Welcome.